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    Default $15/180 AA flops rags, how to maximise?

    Sorry for what may be quite a basic situation, but feeling quite rusty after hardly having played much over the last couple of years. To maximise value, would you generally check behind on this safe board or bet it? I wouldn't want the BB to just check down against the AI player.

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    BB (t10,733)
    UTG (t6,638)
    UTG+1 (t1,555)
    MP1 (t1,035)
    Hero (MP2) (t5,945)
    MP3 (t2,374)
    CO (t596)
    Button (t1,660)
    SB (t4,820)

    Hero's M: 19.82

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A
    2 folds, MP1 raises to t1,035 (All-In), Hero calls t1,035, 4 folds, BB calls t835

    Flop: (t3,205) Q, 8, 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    BB checks, Hero ????
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    I would start building the pot by betting 400, hoping he was planning to check/raise with a Q in his hand. What reads did you have on him? Was his range big enough to make a PF call with almost any hand with his big stack? Start building the pot, it's the only way to earn a lot of chips I think.

    Question from me. Would it be crazy to 3-bet PF (clickraise) with your Aces? I would not like to many players getting involved, even when holding AA, and if someone calls, you have already gotten the extra chips into the pot, and can play hard on any flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerKing View Post
    What reads did you have on him? Was his range big enough to make a PF call with almost any hand with his big stack?
    Can't remember any specific reads but I do remember that he was a pretty decent player so wouldn't have called the AI with total crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerKing View Post
    Question from me. Would it be crazy to 3-bet PF (clickraise) with your Aces? I would not like to many players getting involved, even when holding AA, and if someone calls, you have already gotten the extra chips into the pot, and can play hard on any flop.
    Why wouldn't you want more players to come along for the ride if you have AA? That's exactly why I flat called, because there were 5 players left to act and I wanted at least one other player to call.
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    I think you should probably check the flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168 View Post
    Why wouldn't you want more players to come along for the ride if you have AA? That's exactly why I flat called, because there were 5 players left to act and I wanted at least one other player to call.
    Yes, you are right of course, but I tend to get unlucky when letting to many into the pot.

    If he is a strong player not calling with crap, then checking the Flop would probably be the best thing to do
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    make the standars bet you would make if you had AK and had not hit for example. don't bet little and don't make an overbet. maybe 40% of the pot is ok
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    Check it back, flop is about as dry as it can get. Sure, sometimes you're giving him a free 2-5 outer. But more often he will have a worse hand that he'll choose to bet on the turn as a bluff or for value, such as with an underpair or if he pairs up on the turn.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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    I'd go 1,200/1,600/shove
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiusaa View Post
    make the standars bet you would make if you had AK and had not hit for example. don't bet little and don't make an overbet. maybe 40% of the pot is ok
    you see its a protected pot, right? I'd like a small bet if were only two players, but with the all-in guy a bet looks much stronger.
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    a bet off 400 to 800 looks good if he got a bit off the flop hell raise u up, but expect to shove even before the turn, he would like to isolate the all in
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    Since it will only take 2 bets to get it all-in I check back flop.
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    On Chardrian's point since it will only take 2 streets of betting to get the rest in here we can definately check one street to feign weakness . I however like betting the flop small something at or just under 1k , and then checking back turn and shoving any river . I think this line looks more bluffy and don't see villain folding with his stack size to such a small bet on the flop .
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    I like sah 24s approach,
    smaller standard cbet, check turn to feign weakness/promote steal then big riv bet/shove and hope he hasn't hit 2nd pr or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by micalupagoo View Post
    I like sah 24s approach,
    smaller standard cbet, check turn to feign weakness/promote steal then big riv bet/shove and hope he hasn't hit 2nd pr or...
    I can't count the number of times I "hoped" they didn't improve, and they did

    Maybe it's just me being extremely unlucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerKing View Post
    I can't count the number of times I "hoped" they didn't improve, and they did

    Maybe it's just me being extremely unlucky
    We will be getting in in some way here no matter what , so you will get unlucky no matter how the money goes in, just the same ! Taking the best line to get called by the widest range will yield us the most chip profit !

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