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elgrkn
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06-24-2005, 02:36 AM
Post subject: Poker Sherlock
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 24
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It's made by the same people who created Paragon Poker Pal, and it supports the same sites. (at least 112 of them)
Although the site doesn't really mention it, they appear to store the statistics in a central database that the program accesses remotely. (just like PokerEdge)
The fact that it supports about about 106 more sites than PokerEdge and displays all of the shown hands of any opponent are what drew me in. I still have to try it out for myself, and since it's so new there probably isn't much info on most players yet. So it's also probably too early for anyone to write a fair review on it.
pokersherlock
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Ya, not many players in the database yet, and those that were found had like 5 hands.
It's looking promising though.
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Curtis-E
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Right to the left of you....
Posts: 121
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I've been using the Poker Sherlock for a couple of weeks now, and yes it is all that it's cracked up to be..... However, I don't expect any of you to take my word for it. Look what happened last time when I mentioned Poker Edge to you....
I was berated to all hell.....  Boy that was fun too. I really liked it.
Any ways, the Poker Sherlock is freaking nuts. I should have some videos of it up on my site in the next few days.
I know you can get a free trial here.
*edit
The reason this thing is sweet is because if you play at rooms like Golden Palace, or even smaller places you can quickly have a read on a ton of the regulars. Sure I know you could do all that with your Poker Tracker too, but this thing is really awesome, and super easy....
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PokerSherlock
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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Hi,
I just noticed this post, and so I sent a PM to Tyson and Corey to make sure that FTR gets deserved credit for all the refferals, as it's only fair since FTR spend time and effort running this board.
We appreciate all the great feedback and raves we have gotten via email so far.
Please use this link (and not ones above) to support your favorite forum. I sent Tyson all pertainning info, and a % will go back to supporting FTR!
The link: pokersherlock.com
You guys have a great thing going here... Keep it up!
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ttanaka
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Administrator
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,184
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My stamp of approval.
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Curtis-E
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Right to the left of you....
Posts: 121
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good call Tyson
Hey Sherlock, I just got the new version, and I see you now have HUD support. Is there a way to change the stats I want dispayed on the HUD?
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PokerSherlock
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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Hi Curtis,
That's right, new version has HUD (heads up display), and is supported by most of the 100+ sites that we support including Party Skins, Pacific, Prima Network, and Poker Stars
To answer your question, YES! you can customize all the stats in the HUD as well as the ones in the dashboard in PokerSherlock. To do so, simply go to Options and you will see on the right site a list of all the stats and a capture of the HUD and Dashboard display. All you do is simply drag and drop the stats you want to the spot where you want them to show up. Pretty self explained once you are in the options menu.
Also, they have assigned me to monitor this thread and answer any questions you may have. So feel free to ask away. Or you can also email us with questions, will give you a chance to see the fast responses our customer service provides.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
Posts: 8,379
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The begining of the end...
Any time frame until party poker starts cracking down on player-profiling?
I know they say that it's a no-no in their TOS but to my knowledge they do nothing about it.
With all these Poker-EDGE and PokerSherlock programs popping up, they may start soon.
-'rilla
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Muxy
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canadian LOLUH'S AND AMERICAN LOLUHS
Posts: 1,529
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I emailed Party when doggz said they were going to ban player veiw here is the responce i got.
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Dear Calvin,
Thank you for contacting us.
With reference to your e-mail please note that our teams of game experts, in consultation with the Technical team are constantly evaluating software, in order to determine the suitability of such third party programs and their compatibility with our Poker Client software and Terms and Conditions.
At present, we have no immediate plans to block the software "Poker Tracker", but the situation is under constant review
With reference to "Poker-Edge", please note that our team of game experts in consultation with the Technical team is evaluating the software and carrying out further investigation on the same. We share your concern for online poker and do not encourage the use of such software programs in our card room. However, please give us some time to receive a formal update from our Technical Team, and we will get back to you with an appropriate response.
However, please be aware that we have adequate security systems in place to detect and prevent the use of BOT programs in conjunction with our poker software.
PartyPoker.com strictly prohibits usage of programs that:
1. Automate playing of the hand in any way
2. Participate in collusion or any other cheating methods
3. Use any information which may provide you with an unfair advantage through cheating
We detect and block programs that fall in any of the above categories. Usage of such programs may result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.
Regarding your query on "Playerview", we have no plans to take action against users at this time. We cannot, however, be prevented from safeguarding the integrity of the system and so we may require that you stop using "Playerview" or cease any other activity which, in the circumstances, is deemed to be cheating at any time.
If you have any further questions, comments or concerns, please contact us at alerts@partypoker.com and we will be more than glad to assist you.
Regards,
Kevin E
Investigations Team
alerts@partypoker.com
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PokerSherlock
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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Hi Muxy,
We actually have close contact with Party and some of the skins, as well as some of the other poker networks. We make sure to run things by them and we usually get similar responses warning us that if we ever provided anyway for people to collude, or use a bot with our software, that they would no longer permit use of our programs.
It's funny actually, because every few days we will get an email here at PokerSherlock from some poker/programmer who asks if we can give them a plugin code of some sort of Developers Package, to enable him to plug in to our technology as they want to build a bot to play for them.
Our usual response to such begins by scolding them for their unethical thinking, and reminding them that while we believe in providing every available advantage to the online poker player, that we still uphold strong and ethical morals against cheating, colluding, or bot building. We only believe in the use of technology to provide users with automated information that they could otherwise manually calculate on their own if they wanted to.
We understand the ongoing battle between those who support online poker tools and those who do not, and feel both sides make for very good points. We can even understand some thinking that we preach fair gaming, and yet do not find online poker tools as such, and while we may disagree with them we completely respect all sides. However, we can probably all agree that if an opponent of ours is potentially using some form of tools, that we would want to make sure and have the best darn tool out there to level the playing field and crush them at their own game. Poker tools have been around for years, our original Poker-Pal product that came out 4.5 years ago set the trend for online calculators helping people figure out the odds, and P-Tracker later set the new trend for stats analysis tools, and now with PokerSherlock it's just taking it yet a step further, much like any technology advancing.
As you can see, we don't hide anything here, we are pretty up front and honest about the whole situation, as we don't see a need to insult our player's intelligence. After all, we are all players ourselves, from the head programmer to the marketing team.
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James_Stansky
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 10
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Hey, just downloaded it and trying it out, i was wondering what stats people think are most important for a game, as it lets you customize your stats screen.
Currently I have:
VP$IP, Aggression, Win When See Showdown, Pre Flop Raise, and Post Flop VP$IP
I think this gives me good inidcation of tight and loose as well as if they calling machine, bluffer, or Maniac and how they play post flop.
Anyway, would love to hear what your optimal setup would be.
James
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DoGGz
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I like bb/100 as it tells me if he is a winning player or not.
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Party 6 max
Posts: 1,602
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Are the "HHF history logs" compatible with Poker tracker? i.e. Can POkertracker auto import these files from my harddrive?
I am specifically interested in support for Gamesgrid, Bodog and Sportingbet, none of which are listed on the "supported sites" page. Is this something that they are working on?
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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PokerSherlock
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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Hi Demiparadigm,
The history log option on PokerSherlock outputs all the hand histories from all the sites that we support into the same format, this is the same format Party Hands are in. I haven't actually tried it myself, though I may now that you mentioned it, but would assume since PT can import Party hand histories that it would correclty import these as well.
I'd love for you to give it a try as well and let me know the results.
I'm not sure if there is something further we have to do to make it even more compatible with PT, but if there is we would be happy to do it to accomedate it.
We support many many sites, more than PT i believe, so I guess it would be a huge feature in itself to be able to auto import the hand histories from all the sites that we support for people who love to disect their own game in PT. And we are more than willing to acommedate any such needs once we better understand the specs of what is needed by our customers.
Sincerely,
PokerSherlock
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satan1974
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 147
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Originally Posted by doggz
I like bb/100 as it tells me if he is a winning player or not.
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Where is this in Poker Sherlock? This is the one stat that I would absolutely love to see on all players (and would like it to track for me), but I cannot find it??
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PokerSherlock
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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Hi,
We do not provide BB/100, at least not as of yet.
The reason for this is that we feel it reveals too much about how the player is winning or losing, and are contemplating as to whether or not this crosses the line in privacy. We will re-consider though as a lot of people are asking for it.
Sincerely,
PokerSherlock.com
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Alternamaton
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6
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This is absurd. Having access to any given player's entire decision-making history is a HUGE advantage, and one that is certainly UNFAIR. I have nothing against players who use PokerTracker to monitor their OWN tendencies, but to have instant access to the tendencies of every other player at the table is no better than using a bot to play for you.
I can't believe that the posters here have no qualms with software like Poker Sherlock. I am disgusted.
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pgil
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,103
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Originally Posted by PokerSherlock
Hi,
We do not provide BB/100, at least not as of yet.
The reason for this is that we feel it reveals too much about how the player is winning or losing, and are contemplating as to whether or not this crosses the line in privacy. We will re-consider though as a lot of people are asking for it.
Sincerely,
PokerSherlock.com
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nice... there's the mark of someone concerned with integrity.
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"If you can't say f*ck, you can't say f*ck the government" - Lenny Bruce
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Halv
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pro crastinator
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No hindsight for the blind.
Posts: 1,842
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Woo hoo a close to one year bump  . Doesn't Party ban sherlock users nowadays?
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zarry
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 329
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I was kinda curious to try this and I cant seem to download it via their site...
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I am that fish...
currently broke as a joke...
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Seasider
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bangor UK
Posts: 563
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Originally Posted by PokerSherlock
Hi,
We do not provide BB/100, at least not as of yet.
The reason for this is that we feel it reveals too much about how the player is winning or losing, and are contemplating as to whether or not this crosses the line in privacy. We will re-consider though as a lot of people are asking for it.
Sincerely,
PokerSherlock.com
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 that made me laugh
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flomo
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: mashing potatoes
Posts: 878
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anyone currently using poker sherlock?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Protect dog
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jtleon
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 24
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this is allowed in pokerstars?
anyone still using it now?
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flotu
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 304
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Originally Posted by jtleon
this is allowed in pokerstars?
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Nope: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/
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jtleon
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 24
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thanks
it was mentioned in
http://www.pokersherlock.com/supported.html
now i wonder how reliable is all these info listed in poker sherlock website...
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