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Originally Posted by LuckySlevin
I don't think anyone has the right to judge another let alone actively discriminate against them which is something altogether more sinister.
Sometimes you can have good reason for acting in a certain way to someone but when it's just because they happen to fit into a certain pre conceived stereotype I think that's bang out order!
Gotta disagree 100%. We are free & individual. And it's perfectly normal human nature to judge. To be cow towed into saying/thinking a certain way for PC reasons is wrong. I may not agree with what a person thinks, believes or acts but I will defend to the hilt their right to feel that way.
Here is a fact that is usually overlooked. It's a fact and there's nothing you can do about it (save go genocidal) "whatever anyone thinks about you is none of your business".
Read it again. It's true. That girl you tried chatting up thinks you're a dick, boring, ugly, immature, too old, not hip enough, whatever. It's her opinion and she's entitled to it. And you have no right to get her to change her mind. You can't argue with her that she's wrong and demand a rethink. It can seem harsh and unforgiving. But it's true.
And the same goes for anything: a job interview, guys at college, people you meet at work. Man, woman, boy. child. It's all none of your goddamn business. The only way you can hope to affect is to come across in a better way. It's up to you to change - not the person who is judging you.
That truth can be amended so it isn't just about you: "whatever someone thinks is none of your business". So they are slightly to the right of Genghis Khan? That's their choice. Their advocate the cessation of abortion. The want the death penalty for fat people. It's their fucking choice and they have every right to espouse it and to say what they believe.
No one should have to be forced to like people they don't. And, funnily enough, they will openly choose to remove themselves from interaction with people they don't like and who they judge in a negative fashion. Because we gravitate to those we do like. And so you end up with a harmonious balance. Lumping all together in some half arsed Utopian vision causes friction because people are out of their comfort zone. They are subjugated into accepting a way of life they don't want or agree with.
And it's also human nature to have identity. Who came up with the terms "queer", "gay", "queen" and "fag" for homosexuals? The gay community! And they revel in them! The very terms that non gays see as offensive. Ironic, huh? People want to be different which is something that idiot think tanks in my country are only just grasping (yet still too dogmatic to accept). they've been pushing multi culturalism - thinking it makes them look good and equality for all. But by removing any semblance of identity, or freedom to speak out, they have only served to foster antagonism and the very thing they wanted to avoid: extremism. Muslim terror groups and white neo Nazi nationals.
And ordinary men and women, who feel marginalised, feel they have to vote for such political parties because the main contenders are too busy trying to be hip and "out there" and grabbing what they see to be headlines for humanitarian issues. Then the BNP wins X of seats at the local elections and all these politicians wonder what the fuck just happened.
In the early 90's, it was frowned upon to call black people black (as usual, this was decided by middle class white people) and terms like "afro caribbean" came into popular parlance. Even worse, there were examples where colour wasn't discussed at all. So a policeman would have to say "we're looking for a man, in his late 20's, wearing jeans"- omitting details such as the colour of his skin, the style of clothes he wore and even the colour of those clothes. Well, guess what? The black community rebelled and saw it as patronising. They wanted their identity. They wanted to be called black. And they've come up with their own lingo. Just like any group does, be they black, white, rappers, rockers or vegetarians.
So guess what? "Black" is now back in circulation. "Black man wanted for burglary", "leading to the growth of the black community in London", "black people feel marginalised", "white, working class people in the north" etc are all around on TV and in the news. And no one bats an eye lid. Funny - I was doing this 15 years ago - when it was supposedly racist.
If you hate gays, chinks, wops, blacks, leopards, trees or whatever then it is your right and you should feel free to say so. Others will judge you accordingly, however that will be, and react accordingly. And that will be a fair and fitting commentary.
On a social level, especially for those who champion diversity and equality, it's better to be aware of where people stand on issues rather than have them say one thing in public but think/act another in private.
I have my likes and dislikes and I won't stand for anyone telling me I'm wrong or I can't say this or that. I worked with a woman who was a total killjoy. Anything even remotely sexual was jumped on. Anything poking fun at stereotypes was racist. And all the best comedy pokes fun at someone. Incredulously, she jumped on us when we poked fun at our own demographic! We were accused of being racist........against ourselves!
Now that is an extreme example but the point remains, no one has the right to tell you what to say or think. And any motion to do, whilst encouraging another perspective (socially acceptable or not) is both wrong and hypocritical.
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