Zion I

[Alibi]

who likes 'em

[gabe]

i like about 1/3 of his stuff

my favorite song is the song 'flow' with the grouch

[JJDAMAN]

Isn't there more than one person??

I've only heard V2 Deep Water Slang, thought it was pretty good.

Best songs are The Drill and ... forget the other really good one. I'll post it when I can figure it out at home.

[Alibi]

they're a lot like binary star. why only 1/3??????

[gabe]

NOTHING like binary star. and yea there are two guys, my mistake.

ps im seeing common and lupe on the 11th.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Zion I is two guys like Ganstarr is two guys lol. I mean it's Zion and DJ amp live, who produces.
Zion I is really awesome, I love all the songs featuring the Grouch except there CD together "Heroes in the city of Dope" isn't that good.
I have tons of Zion I on my computer and I must say his older stuff is ballin, but his newer stuff isn't as good.
But he's one of my favorite artists.

[gabe]

lets change this into a gangstarr thread

gangstarr is so awesome

[IowaSkinsFan]

lets change this into a gangstarr thread

gangstarr is so awesome

Primier is great but Guru kind of annoys me. Moment of Truth = awesome album.

[gametight]

By far, the best Zion I song is "Silly Puddy" with the Grouch. If you havent heard it, look it up. Its off the Mind of Matter cd.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Mind over matter i think is their best CD.
Some awesome ones.
Sunshine, Beats, and Rhymes
Inner Light
How Many
Act Right
Moves That Make Me

[Alibi]

i think mf doom is better than gangstarr

[boost]

gonna cross post this in sesame street thread:

I heard this song nearly 8+ years ago I think, some older cat I knew that was all into underground hip hop gave me a mix with this on it, I finally remembered to google it and this came up as like the 4th result.

http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=29368

[XTR1000]

I know Zion I only from some monkeystyle vid, i like breathing slow.

Gang Starr owns just everything in ec rap.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Mind Over Matter is an amazing CD.

[IowaSkinsFan]

i think mf doom is better than gangstarr

Maybe we should change this to the non mainstream rap discussion thread?

MF Doom is sick, what's your favorite MF Doom alter ego?

[boost]

you mean mf doom > guru?

[gabe]

mf doom is too weird to be even close to gangstarr

[boost]

am I wrong in thinking that mf doom is one person?

[swiggidy]

am I wrong in thinking that mf doom is one person?

no

MF doom is sick, gangstarr (Guru and Premier) is better

For completeness:
Hip Hop Anyone?

[boost]

ok.. I was getting confused for a sec. Kinda weird to make comparisons like eminem vs wutang..

[boost]

ok.. this song just popped into my head I think its called "heavenly divine" whos it by? must find this song...

[boost]

ty google: jedi mind tricks ..

[JJDAMAN]

JEDI MIND TRICKS!!

Also fire.

[IowaSkinsFan]

mf doom is too weird to be even close to gangstarr

Surprsingly a lot of guys who are into dipset and mainstream shit really like MF Doom.

MF Doom yeah is one guy, he produces his own stuff. He actually has two "alter egos", one being Vicktor Vaughn, in which through that character does a lot of story songs. Another being King Geedorah, who is pretty cool too.

Jedi Mind Tricks has some good stuff, but there new CD gets kinda old because the style gets kind of old.

[boost]

I just want that heavenly divine song... its one of those that brings back great memories..

[IowaSkinsFan]

I just want that heavenly divine song... its one of those that brings back great memories..

Heavenly divine isnt that good IMO.
Classic Jedi Mind is I against I.

[gabe]

jedi mind tricks is cool to listen to for about 30 minutes.

[IowaSkinsFan]

jedi mind tricks is cool to listen to for about 30 minutes.

soooooo agreed.
Do you like any gangstarr before moment of truth? I was listening to one of their older CD's and it seemed like kind of sell out ganster rap. It had a really rugged sound too, which can be cool.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Songs You Don't Have DL list:
Natural Elements - Mayday
People Under The Stairs - Acid Raindrops (however, they have tons of good songs dl them)
Brother Ali - Star Quality (He's really good DL a lot of his shit too)
Cunninlynguists - Lynguistics (AGAIN very good artist)
C Rayz Walz - '86 (funny guy, punch line rapping)
Funk Doobiest - DL everything off of brothas doobie
Old Ice Cube, especially songs from lethal injection
Louis Logic - idiot gear
Necro - 86 measures of game (lol this guy is hilarious, also try all hotties eat the gizz)
Gravediggaz - 1800 suicide
Non Phixion - Rock Stars (Primier produced)
Skinnyman - fuck the hook

Note I'm sure a lot of people have heard of a lot of guys on this list but most of these guys aren't well known.

[gabe]

jedi mind tricks is cool to listen to for about 30 minutes.

soooooo agreed.
Do you like any gangstarr before moment of truth? I was listening to one of their older CD's and it seemed like kind of sell out ganster rap. It had a really rugged sound too, which can be cool.

yea, 'the ? remains" is one of my favorites, but i dont have any of their albums before that (unless you count the full clip best hits double album). theres probably 10 songs or so that i like before that album but alot i dont really like.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Very underrated gangstarr song: Betrayal

[boost]

iowa, do you have any non phixion? Maybe we could trade some stuff, they arent on itunes, and its pretty hard to find most of thier shit.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Get soulseek.
I can exchange rocks stars and cia is trying to kill me but that's it because the rest is from napster, which i cant share (deal with school).

[boost]

stupid school...

what is soulseek?

I really want that non phixion anthem where they spell it out in the chorus, also soem song about black helicopters is in the back of my head. But yah, I like non phixion and premiere is the shit, so uhh.. whats your aim?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Soulseek is another filesharing program.

[boost]

filesharing programs = lol viruses Ill prob just have to find it on bit torrent.

[JJDAMAN]

No soulseek's actually pretty clean from my experience. It just takes a shitload of time to download. Their focus is supposedly on underground type music, so you can find lots of rareish music unavailable through torrents.

[XTR1000]

i can send some non phixion via icq

[IowaSkinsFan]

OMG sick song.
Cru - just another case

anyone who wants it pm me for my aim.

[IowaSkinsFan]

OMG another sick song that I was into awhile ago that I'm super into now.

Gangstarr - deadly habitz

[gabe]

OMG another sick song that I was into awhile ago that I'm super into now.

Gangstarr - deadly habitz

im all for some gangstarr but they have so many better songs than this one

moment of truth, full clip, new york strait talk, same team no games, all 4 tha cash, rite where u stand, the ? remains, rep grows bigga, who got guns, the militiar 1 2 and 3, put up or shut up, make em pray, skillz, the list goes on

[lolzzz_321]

party like a rockstar remix?

[lolzzz_321]

i like king geedorah over viktor vaughn

anybody like that doublehelix album, soundproof, right?

[IowaSkinsFan]

OMG another sick song that I was into awhile ago that I'm super into now.

Gangstarr - deadly habitz

im all for some gangstarr but they have so many better songs than this one

moment of truth, full clip, new york strait talk, same team no games, all 4 tha cash, rite where u stand, the ? remains, rep grows bigga, who got guns, the militiar 1 2 and 3, put up or shut up, make em pray, skillz, the list goes on

deadley habitz is my favorite of all those, right now i have the ownerz on my playlist so that's why I have this song specifically up on my list (Although rite where u stand, miltia pt 3, and rite where u stand are all close seconds). I mean, all the tracks you named are great, but I think deadley habitz will have appeal to many.

[IowaSkinsFan]

bump

Anyone hear of Blue Scholars or Common Market? Both of these guys are produced by Sob Z, who makes some ill beats. BS is so political in his rap though it gets annoying, but Common Market is pretty good.

[will641]

lets change this into a gangstarr thread

gangstarr is so awesome

i agree completely, gangstarr is def better than zion i. the rhymes style is elevated, the style of beats are elevated, but its still guru and premier, and theres always a message involved.

anyways, best Zion I track is critical from mind over matter

[gabe]

the rhymes style is elevated, the style of beats are elevated, but its still guru and premier, and theres always a message involved.

haha