06-03-2014 08:32 PM
#1801
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06-03-2014 11:09 PM
#1802
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06-04-2014 12:41 AM
#1803
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06-04-2014 01:19 AM
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as much as hate the idea, if he's quickly beheaded near the beginning of the next ep, i might have to call that some goatness |
06-04-2014 11:40 AM
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06-04-2014 05:56 PM
#1806
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06-04-2014 11:21 PM
#1807
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Snape kills Dumbledore. | |
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06-06-2014 09:21 AM
#1808
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06-07-2014 08:43 AM
#1809
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jamie has to save him or something... right? don't kill the fucking imp, i couldn't handle that. | |
06-08-2014 03:53 PM
#1810
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This is my primary reason as well. He's not gonna die when the end of the episode makes it seem like he should die, when people die it's made to be a surprise storywise. | |
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06-08-2014 04:23 PM
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^^FWIW I think the story would benefit from killing Tyrion. It would provoke Jaime to become the counter to Tywin and Cersei, which is a bigger deal than Tyrion doing it. Furthermore, it would make Tywin the ultimate bad guy, which would make Stannis and Littlefinger the good guys |
06-08-2014 04:54 PM
#1812
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There aren't any good guys in GoT. Except maybe ned stark and his bastard son. | |
06-08-2014 05:04 PM
#1813
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I mean good guys as far as protagonists for the audience. GoT has those, albeit in some ways inadvertent. Regardless of how the books do it, the show has to use protagonists. From that perspective, I think fans are more pro-Lannister than pro-Stannis because of Tyrion, but if he dies at the hands of the head Lannisters, it could change a lot. Regardless, I think Sansa and Littlefinger will gradually become protagonists. Sansa would already be one if she were actively trying to fix her victimhood |
06-08-2014 05:30 PM
#1814
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This is a big part of the reason why it seems so infeasible he's going to die, it would change the whole perception of the Lannister family where they're only a bunch of sour cunts. | |
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06-08-2014 05:39 PM
#1815
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I've picked Littlefinger as the darkhorse for ultimate GoT winner since s2. I think he is amassing himself some great power, but I also think he will get played by Sansa. She now knows that power the ideal of her mother has over him. |
06-08-2014 09:32 PM
#1816
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06-08-2014 09:58 PM
#1817
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GAME TIME | |
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06-08-2014 10:40 PM
#1818
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GIANT FIRING A GIANT BOW TY BASED HBO GODS | |
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06-08-2014 11:03 PM
#1819
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Prediction: Episode 10 starts with everyone leaving Tyrion's beheading all like, "Yeah, that was a good beheading." Don't even show it. | |
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06-09-2014 05:17 PM
#1820
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BANNED
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Last edited by ChipEaterMan; 06-09-2014 at 05:21 PM. | |
06-09-2014 09:33 PM
#1821
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I'm all for a opening scene with an indiscernible shot of whatever, and audio of a crowd. Probably should be some sick dreadful music playing. And the shot pans, slowly revealing Tyrion's decapitated head and finally the smug smugness of Cersei and Tywin. Also some sort of foreshadowing to how this will ultimately be the downfall of them. | |
06-10-2014 03:54 PM
#1822
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I love how fluid and real they can make everything look with CGI nowadays. This war is starting to rival Blacwater Siege in greatness. This could be how GRRM has foreseen the Stannis-who-already-lost story deadlock: The wildlings invade and go to war with everyone. This mayhem would also be a perfect breeding ground for a Tyrion escape. We all know he's not going to actually die and we're just joking around about his death right guyz? | |
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06-10-2014 03:59 PM
#1823
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I wonder if Jaime will rape anyone else beside his dead son this season. | |
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06-10-2014 04:07 PM
#1824
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I laughed my ass off during that scene. | |
06-11-2014 10:05 PM
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06-11-2014 11:26 PM
#1826
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Terrible director, or director who unintentionally rapes people? | |
Last edited by d0zer; 06-11-2014 at 11:30 PM. | |
06-13-2014 12:51 PM
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Or great director, great rapist. | |
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06-13-2014 05:41 PM
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From the sound of it, the history before GoT started sounds better than the GoT time. I would love for the show to have started with some of the Targaryen ruling stuff and ended with Robert's Rebellion and fallout. It sounds like there were good guys on all sides, really great drama, and some awesome fighting |
06-13-2014 08:02 PM
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06-13-2014 09:56 PM
#1830
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I wouldn't be surprised if they make that after GoT ends. GoT: the dragon age. | |
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06-14-2014 12:38 AM
#1831
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Well, duh. My point is that the history sounds better and could be woven together more tightly. Maybe it couldn't, I don't know that much about it. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 06-14-2014 at 12:44 AM. | |
06-14-2014 06:48 AM
#1832
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Stolen from reddit. No spoilers. | |
06-14-2014 01:09 PM
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06-14-2014 02:17 PM
#1834
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The Star Wars problem was something else. Lucas tuned out. The prequels never had a chance even if they were the greatest story ever |
06-14-2014 02:19 PM
#1835
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Hey, that duel that you mentioned... is that on the s03 Bluray extras or something? Am I not caught up? | |
06-14-2014 02:24 PM
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Well, my idea about the history was never that it was "happily ever after". Both Robert and Rhaegar were heroes of their own stories. I'll be very surprised if GoT gives us anything equally as compelling as the two main heroes hating each other and fighting to the death, neither of whom was totally right or totally wrong. Maybe if eventually we get like Arya vs Dany, but that won't happen |
06-14-2014 02:27 PM
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Pretty sure Joffrey mentioned it when he was reading the book of deeds and insulting Jaime. I read the GoT wiki on it, not the ASOIAF, which doesn't say much other than some details of how it went down and how badass the fighters wer. I've read some of reddit discussions about the greatest warriors since that's compelling as shit. They seem to include everything to date in the show and a bunch from the history |
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06-14-2014 07:53 PM
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As for something HBO could do after GoT, I think it would lose a lot of strength by going back over the previous 0-40 years. A lot of the strength in the idea of having made the show start with that is all the show-only watchers wouldn't know anything about the book stories, so the Robert vs Rhaegar, Jaime kingslaying, and the loads of other awesome stuff would not have been known beforehand (except to those who read the books, but fuck em amirong?). What I think they should do is make a second series about Old Valyria, pre-dragon, pre-Targaryen, pre-doom. It would basically just be creating whole new storylines and new lore with a solid foundation. It would be nothing other than GoT part 2, but made specifically for TV, which would make the plotting much tighter IMO |
06-14-2014 08:22 PM
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I think that's an excellent idea. I think there's a slim chance we meet some minor characters from the far far east (by the names of cities found on the map on the far east of Essos, it would seem this is the continuum's version of Asia), and I doubt we ever actually visit any of the locales, but exploring that region is ripe for a follow up series. Maybe the Dothraki would be very minor players at this time, like the Mongols pre-Khans. | |
06-15-2014 06:45 AM
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An important theme that adds urgency to the show and explains why it makes sense to recount this particular time period is the Wall. It has stood for over a thousand years but now the Lich King is coming, the wildlings are attacking it. If it falls this is a big event that changes everything for everyone, the dance for the throne by all the important houses will no longer be the same. | |
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06-15-2014 10:43 AM
#1841
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Yeah for sure, and that's why a shift in setting to Valyria would be perfect. That way you don't really need to top it, but just have an equally compelling event. | |
06-15-2014 10:50 AM
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Yeah for sure, and that's why a shift in setting to Valyria would be perfect. That way you don't really need to top it, but just have an equally compelling event. | |
06-16-2014 01:13 AM
#1843
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well, damn. a happy ending for pretty much everyone? | |
06-16-2014 01:34 AM
#1844
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Loved the undead. That was exactly how they should be depicted. The opposite of my complaints from the s2 depiction |
08-15-2014 02:52 PM
#1845
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Read the first couple chapters of a clash of kings. I'll probably get through all the books in a few months |
08-15-2014 10:52 PM
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08-15-2014 11:10 PM
#1847
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We're gonna go ahead and wait until I know spoilers before I GTFO |
08-16-2014 01:58 AM
#1848
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probably gonna agree with renton and not watch the show anymore as they are getting far far too book spoilery | |
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08-16-2014 01:24 PM
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08-16-2014 01:28 PM
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08-16-2014 01:32 PM
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08-16-2014 01:37 PM
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I don't think it has really happened yet, or people aren't sure because the show diverges from the books in some (some say) significant ways, but there are events that have been on screen that take place towards the end of book five. Which means if those arcs continue, they would have to either loosely follow GRRM's outline of future books, thereby spoiling booknerds, or the show writers would have to brave it on their own. | |
08-16-2014 01:58 PM
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They've semi spoiled a few things already for us. And without sounding like a typical book purist who says the book is ALWAYS ALWAYS better than the new medium (I can tell you right now that Kubrick's Shining, which Stephen King hated, was better than the book), the books are far FAR better than the show. So when the show catches up (it will, its a near certainty at this point that the final book will come out years after the last season of the series), I definitely will not watch it. | |
08-16-2014 02:21 PM
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Well I started reading the books because I've heard too many examples of the show cutting out cool stuff or straight up changing the events in worse ways and word is that the s5 cast is leaving a whole bunch out. It looks like the show is kinda sorta gonna try to cram b4 and 5 into s5, which just blows my mind . But I also hear that b4 and b5 aren't that great, so I dunno wtf to think |
08-16-2014 03:55 PM
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08-16-2014 06:45 PM
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Too much book whining. | |
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08-16-2014 06:46 PM
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i forgot how people are so talking about the show right now |
08-16-2014 07:57 PM
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I really don't think GoT compares very well with the other goat-tier shows like Boardwalk and Breaking Bad. | |
08-29-2014 04:06 PM
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Can't wait till the next season. |
08-29-2014 11:42 PM
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Just my 2 cents, but series is better than the books. And I have read all of those, great stuff but series is even better, with great actors and so on. Even a little shame that feel quite spoiled by the books but it's nice to know that not everything is going to be same in the series. |
09-01-2014 06:22 PM
#1861
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I miss Game of Thrones When does next season start? | |
09-02-2014 12:23 PM
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09-02-2014 09:04 PM
#1863
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Halfway through ACOK |
09-02-2014 09:08 PM
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With that in mind, I would argue that film is an inherently superior storytelling form since the POV is always categorical omniscient. In my own writing, I have found it frustrating to hell that I can't tell a story as I see fit since that requires POV breaks. But the screen has no POV breaks, and thus can portray events most appropriately |
09-05-2014 10:49 PM
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i may or may not stop reading after finishing book 3. it's weird since the books are defo good, but i feel like the side characters are much better in the show. some of the main characters are better in the books, but some aren't. i guess if the show/book deviation is big enough by the end of b3 and i prefer the book storytelling, i'll go with that |
09-06-2014 11:34 AM
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I already finished book 3 | |
10-02-2014 06:33 PM
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I'll be finishing book 3 tonight. Not sure if I'm going to read book 4. I really like the books, but I like the show better. I just don't know if I'll find more enjoyment out of watching the show before reading the books or vise versa |
10-02-2014 06:53 PM
#1868
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Somebody convince me of what to do |
10-02-2014 06:57 PM
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I have found myself quite underwhelmed by all the major events so far. Oberyn's death in the show was destruction of the ego, his death in the books was like if you heard about this one time a guy got hit by a car. Every side character is better in the show, by a lot. The only exception is Daario, but that's because he's garbage in the show. The extra detail of lore and dialogue is great in the books. Some of the main characters are better in the books. |
10-02-2014 07:44 PM
#1870
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All you non-purists get out of this thread! Rabble rabble! | |
10-02-2014 07:54 PM
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Thanks, but I've known that for a while. I can't believe the editors thought that idiocy was acceptable |
10-03-2014 12:53 AM
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Pros: They're really good, the show will probably eviscerate wide swaths of them, including entire major character arcs. | |
10-03-2014 01:02 AM
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i stopped reading a bit farther than you, Wuf. I am happy with my decision. I'll probably reread the entire thing when the show finishes. | |
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10-09-2014 09:22 PM
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Almost halfway through Feast. Now that most of it is new, I think I like the books more than the show. It appears that the show is going to end up in a much different place. I also think that what I like more about the show (side characters and sick cool small scenes like Tyrion dragging the chair or Teh Joffs gonna gives Uncle Stanny a red smile) is better to add to the books instead of replace it or come before it |
10-24-2014 06:43 PM
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