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3/6 - 88 in 3bet pot

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  1. #1

    Default 3/6 - 88 in 3bet pot

    Villain is a 3/6 regular running 24/18/3.4. Using PT2, so no calls 3b%. We've played a lot together but I don't have too many notes. We've battled pre-flop before (he pushed QQ over my 4b, I called with AKs) and I've turned an underpair into a bluff on a flush river when he had the nut flush.

    Is this a standard cbet/fold?

    Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
    LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

    UTG: $297.75
    CO: $611.40
    BTN: $781.70
    Hero (SB): $621.45
    BB: $660

    Pre-Flop: 8 8 dealt to Hero (SB)
    2 folds, BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $72, BB folds, BTN calls $51

    Flop: ($150) 4 J T (2 Players)
    Hero bets $102, BTN raises to $709.70 and is All-In, Hero...
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    Well you obviously haven't given us any reads that would merit a call here. Yes, this looks a lot like AK/AQ, but even those have very good equity against you.

    I think c/f and b/f are close and the correct choice depends on how you want to balance your play. I prefer to c/f this vs most opponents myself, but you will get more action if you always b/f instead.
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    ^^^^^^^^^ What he said.
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    I like a smaller c/bet but for the rest I agree with what P4 said.
  5. #5
    I dump this, mostly because even if he's on a draw his draw is flipping with us and if he's not drawing we're owned.

    I don't mind bet folding here.
  6. #6
    Yeah if we look at some equity calcs you're pretty much crushed so v.std fold

    i also mix it up between b/f and c/f in this spot
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  7. #7
    I think c/f is clearly better. The board smacks his 3bet calling range I would guess.
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    Some opponents will bet every single time we don't cbet 3-bet pots oop. Vs those players we can't c/f this. Against them I like to c/r 3-bet pots where I have the lead a lot (strong hands and draws). When they adjust we can start to c/f underpairs again.
  9. #9
    no way you can call here. I c/f most of the time because people raise this flop like always.
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  10. #10
    what do you think he has which beats us?

    how often is he jamming a jack?

    how often does he have AA/KK/QQ?

    JJ/TT?

    why is he jamming ATC on this flop? and with what range would that make sense?
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  11. #11
    Because of the board texture, the likelihood it missed my hand, and the likelihood free cards will help my hand, I think his shoving range is pretty balanced here.

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