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You're cool. I'm not insulted by you, only by my own self-criticism.
By the way... the following question touches one of my pet peeves, so bear with the semi-rant that comes. It's not about you, so much as the failed education system which tells people that it's OK to be voluntarily ignorant.
Originally Posted by grumpy64
speaking of poker math why is it so dang hard to find formulas that account for money u can make on the next street. Pretty much every semi bluff and bluff calculation i can find on google assumes you're all in
Well, first off, I told you exactly the math for a full calculation when you are not all-in, and all you had to do was ask. I'm not so sure I see what you mean by the information being hard to find.
BUT, assuming that you have a point which I have simply not observed, I assume that it's mostly because people have been told that it's OK to not be embarrassed if they can't do grade-school math. So people who are fully capable of doing the math say, "it's hard," as if the difficulty of math-thinking is even remotely comparable to the actual difficult things they deal with (and solve) on an hourly basis.
Also, people want to believe that there is some "neat trick" that they can memorize to be good at poker, and when they see a simplified, dumbed down EV calc which assumes they're all in, they shy away from it. So what's the point of showing them a more complicated EV calculation with fewer assumptions when they don't even care enough to try to understand the most simple forms?
E.g. you've still not answered these 5 questions:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Hero bluffs OTT, Villain folds:
Hero bluffs OTT, Villain calls, Hero misses draw / Hero loses:
Hero bluffs OTT, Villain calls, Hero hits draw / shoves, Villain folds:
Hero bluffs OTT, Villain calls, Hero hits draw / shoves, Villain calls, Hero wins:
1) Write down the value of each outcome.
2) Write down the % chance associated with each step in each outcome.
3) Multiply the value by any percentages in each outcome
4) Add up all the outcomes (noting that some of them are negative). This is the total EV of your line.
5) IF there is a variable in your equation (I.e. Villain's fold rate OTT), then set the EV >= 0 and solve for the variable.
Why is that?
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