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    Default 75s from MP, turn+river play

    Please no comments on the pre open Its Big 5 from ps .fr

    I just want to know if you would bet this turn or rather check behind. And how you would proceed river in both cases.
    Also this was a player who just came at our table , so no reads yet.

    Altough its basically one of the worst turn cards in the deck for me I am still not 100% sure if checking behind is the best option vs betting.
    No Limit Holdem Tournament
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    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    $4.50+$0.50

    Stacks:
    UTG TimboKing174 (12,446) 83bb
    UTG+1 xxxzeetixxx (21,039) 140bb
    MP1 Hero (11,927) 80bb
    MP2 0ldjunor (9,269) 62bb
    MP3 TastyTapis (11,276) 75bb
    CO nakataZ (11,399) 76bb
    BTN TCHAKOS1 (9,255) 62bb
    SB papadjems (26,012) 173bb
    BB stekanowicz (11,952) 80bb

    Blinds: 75/150 Ante 20

    Pre-Flop: (405, 9 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to 300, 5 folds, stekanowicz calls 150

    Flop: (855, 2 players)
    stekanowicz bets 256, Hero raises to 939, stekanowicz calls 683

    Turn: (2,733, 2 players)
    stekanowicz checks, Hero bets 1,650, stekanowicz calls 1,650 (Hero ?????)

    River: (6,033, 2 players)
    stekanowicz bets 3,016, ????


    stekanowicz wins 9,049 (net +3,124)

    Hero lost 2,909
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    What is ur point in betting turn? I would much rather that u check turn and be willing to call that amount on river then to bet turn and fold river. Checking turn allows u to showdown for close to same price of ur bet and also induces bluffs on river.
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    Checking turn calling river seems best to me. As played, river feels like a fold I don't make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
    What is ur point in betting turn? I would much rather that u check turn and be willing to call that amount on river then to bet turn and fold river. Checking turn allows u to showdown for close to same price of ur bet and also induces bluffs on river.
    I agree that that line seems best!

    I was in doubt, cause in the case if he hasn´t got me beat on turn , there are a bunch of hands in his range that could improve river and have us beat. Also I am the player that often take the more agressive route if I am in doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Checking turn calling river seems best to me. As played, river feels like a fold I don't make.
    Yeah like in my previous comment , I should have checked turn and call every river to make it easier for myself.
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    I think your line is good as played. There are plenty of worse hands that call a turn bet.

    Whatever happens OTT you can't call every river, you have to fold 2/9/clubs at a minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy View Post
    I think your line is good as played. There are plenty of worse hands that call a turn bet.

    Whatever happens OTT you can't call every river, you have to fold 2/9/clubs at a minimum.
    Lol now I am confused again

    Isn't it a spot were both betting and checking are very close to eachother in terms of most optimal?
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    I think betting turn is easily better than checking. You can make a clear fold to a raise and your hand needs protection. Villain has a lot of pretty bad hands which have between 12 and 20 outs against you. As played, his line looks pretty strong but with two pair and 3:1 I find a fairly easy call, hoping to beat some random bluff or pair that is just clicking buttons.

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