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02-02-2009, 05:01 PM
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It's time some of you small stakes grinders brought your game up to the next level. So we are going to discuss some concepts and play some poker. Here is the Deal: I'm going to ask FTR to define 5 concepts as they relate to short handed NLHE. Any FTR member with 100+ posts is eligible to offer ONE definition for up to THREE of the concepts in this thread. You may use words, math, hand histories w/ reads, etc. in your explanation. Also it is useful to explain why you think this concept is important at mid-high stakes. The winning responses will probably resemble an essay. The Deadline for this part is Monday Feb. 9th at noon. There will be 5 winners (one for each definition). The next part of the competition will be a battle royale in which I will play some 6 max pokers with you. We will schedule a 3-HOUR 4-TABLE session of $.50/1 NLHE on POKERSTARS for sometime later in February. The person who is up the most money after this session according to a competitor's PT or HEM will receive informal (but unlimited) coaching from me on AIM throughout March including sweats and much discussion. I am pretty much online all of the time during weekdays. This competition is targeted at people who are playing 50NL-600NL.
Here are the concepts:
Balance (unexploitability)
Leveling
Potsize Manipulation in 3bet pots ( I want to see a discussion on what bet sizing lines are best for value and for fold equity on different board textures and preflop scenarios )
Delayed Cbetting (in both single raised and 3bet pots, value and bluff)
Reversing the initiative in a hand (when is this appropriate and why is it valuable)
Please submit these responses via PM
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first.. and this is the shit.. I'll be back on later to give my go at this.
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Wow awesome. When you say 'define', do you mean 'concise science textbook style' definition or do you mean 'write everything you know about xyz in a coherent essay' style definition?
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Aww shoot, i don't qualify. Im only at 5nl. I won't be able to participate in the session if I win, but can I still try and answer?
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Holy shit.....im in!
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nutsinho
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Wow awesome. When you say 'define', do you mean 'concise science textbook style' definition or do you mean 'write everything you know about xyz in a coherent essay' style definition?
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the latter will give u the best shot at winning
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Wow, thanks for your contribution Nuts. This is a real opportunity to learn even if you don't win. I'll def. be PMing you some definitions.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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jyms
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Via PM or here?
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I don't want anyone copying my homework, do you?
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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badgers
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Holy shit.
I will get to work.
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3k post - Return of the blog!
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C-betting 100% of flooops is teh moost profatbil wai to play teh poooker becas it can has no exploition. Feel free to copy that everybody! 
This is pretty fucking awesome of you Nuts, given that your hourly for coaching must be like 4 figures. And if nothing else it's a good chance for people to actually think about these things properly rather than just blindly parrot what we might read on a forum (myself included).
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There's only one system. Bet. Lose. Borrow. Steal. Lose. Take the drugs. Lose. Prison. Death.
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fuck me yay
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Robb
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Holy mother of god what an offer!!
I will post later, don't know about winning, tho - whoever does will get some awesome value, that's for sure.
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nutsinho
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post in this thread yo. obv if it looks like someone has copied the central ideas of an earlier entry then they will not win. i want this thread to be worth a sticky after the week is over
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I think you should take PMs and post the responses after the week is over
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I think you should take PMs and post the responses after the week is over
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fair enough. i will accept both.
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I think you should take PMs and post the responses after the week is over
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agree with this or just everybody wait till the last day to post.
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I think you should take PMs and post the responses after the week is over
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Yeah this for sure. There's only so much stuff you can talk about for some of these subjects and ideas and concepts are easily copied unintentionally so people who post late have a clear advantage.
For example lets say I write a draft essay and someone else posts up their essay on the same subject before I'm finished and they happen to mention an important point that I've forgotten, there's no way I'm not going back and fixing my essay.
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ok edited
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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I think you should take PMs and post the responses after the week is over
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fair enough. i will accept both. |
yes please do this, I'm not good enough at short-handed to win this but I really want to see the winning answers without having to read the same things over and over.
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02-02-2009, 08:29 PM
Post subject: Re: Win money, coaching from nutsinho
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The next part of the competition will be a battle royale in which I will play some 6 max pokers with you. We will schedule a 3-HOUR 4-TABLE session of $.50/1 NLHE on POKERSTARS for sometime later in February. The person who is up the most money after this session according to a competitor's PT or HEM will receive informal (but unlimited) coaching from me on AIM throughout March including sweats and much discussion. |
You will end up coaching yourself imo.
Seriously though I would have to really try to calculate how much -ev it would be to 4 table against you and 5 other regs here to see if this deal makes sense. There could be some serious negative variance happening due to weird end game betting patterns just to finish ahead in the bet. Yea, I know I am such a nit. I may still submit a response just cuz the coaching experience would prolly still be worth it.
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Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
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make sure your PM box has enough to room, I'm sure you'll be getting a lot of responses
you won't be getting any from me, I already own you
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oh also to ensure that there is no flipping or other BS at the end of the 6max session, i reserve the right to coach anyone i want
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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Amazing offer. Gl every1.
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Currently thinking of a new quote/signature... Some sort of prayer to the Poker gods for enlightment etc..
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oh also to ensure that there is no flipping or other BS at the end of the 6max session, i reserve the right to coach anyone i want
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obv
Why don't you just say that you'll choose the "winner" based on game play in the 6m session? Not worry about total amounts won but instead on whatever "impresses" you about the players?
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i considered that but meh. poker is about winning the money, not showing off, and i am already in control of enough aspects of this contest.
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oh also to ensure that there is no flipping or other BS at the end of the 6max session, i reserve the right to coach anyone i want
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If I'm a finalist and we just started flipping, I would definitely win this contest. I own nuts in flips on Stars.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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oh also to ensure that there is no flipping or other BS at the end of the 6max session, i reserve the right to coach anyone i want
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whew... then I'm an easy shoe-in.. Me thinks nuts has a man crush on me..
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02-03-2009, 01:36 AM
Post subject: Re: Win money, coaching from nutsinho
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We will schedule a 3-HOUR 4-TABLE session of $.50/1 NLHE on POKERSTARS for sometime later in February. |
in, and if my definitions hold I'll even open a poker stars account...
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PM's sent..... Lockup seat 1!
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Looking forward to send you a pm
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All right, I'm in. I sent a pm to nutshino. Even if I don't win (and I don't really expect to), writing has helped me think more clearly about poker. Big thanks to nutshino for doing this and reading all our stuff.
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02-05-2009, 02:45 AM
Post subject: Re: Win money, coaching from nutsinho
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This competition is targeted at people who are playing 50NL-600NL. [/b]
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I'd love to give this a try but unfortunately I am no longer rolled for $50NL
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Oh come on.. it's just guidelines guys! send your pm's anyways imo
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I'd really like to try, but I think because I'm disliked I don't stand a chance at winning.
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the tougher a topic you pick, the greater chance you will have at winning. if you go for the obvious choice(s) you probably won't win unless your response is super impressive.
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I have no idea how to put any of these concepts into words, so i'm just gonna sit and wait and learn.....cant wait to see the winners explanations.
Gd idea btw!
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the tougher a topic you pick, the greater chance you will have at winning. if you go for the obvious choice(s) you probably won't win unless your response is super impressive.
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Yeah, I thought that, too, but you have KNOW something about a topic to write about it. 
I'm still working on a couple. Writing my thoughts down is helping to focus my mind on good concepts and ways to think about poker. Thanks to nuts for reading all this, and hosting the competition.
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Folks, the idea is to try the definitions on your own FOR YOUR BENEFIT. It will be almost as beneficial to do the exercise as it would be to win coaching from Nuts. Trust me.
Just completing the exercise will get your mind actively thinking about poker concepts rather than just passively learning spoon fed material. You will have more lightbulb moments by thinking your own way through a problem than you ever will by reading someone else's opinions. Don't believe me, ask ISF or someone else that progressed through the ranks quickly. I would bet you that they would say introspection has advanced their game more than anything else.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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the tougher a topic you pick, the greater chance you will have at winning. if you go for the obvious choice(s) you probably won't win unless your response is super impressive.
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What two topics do you think you've got the least responses to so far?
I'll give one of those a shot even though my understanding may be limited.
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Currently thinking of a new quote/signature... Some sort of prayer to the Poker gods for enlightment etc..
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Folks, the idea is to try the definitions on your own FOR YOUR BENEFIT. It will be almost as beneficial to do the exercise as it would be to win coaching from Nuts. Trust me.
Just completing the exercise will get your mind actively thinking about poker concepts rather than just passively learning spoon fed material. You will have more lightbulb moments by thinking your own way through a problem than you ever will by reading someone else's opinions. Don't believe me, ask ISF or someone else that progressed through the ranks quickly. I would bet you that they would say introspection has advanced their game more than anything else.
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Yeah, I agree with this. Also, basically if I don't win I want my answers to be completely wrong, because I feel like I don't implement these concepts nearly effectively enough.
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less than 24 hours left imo. looking for a good one on sizing in 3bet pots. ***
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less than 24 hours left imo. looking for a good one on sizing in 3bet pots. ***
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Thats the one that really made my mind go blank, and therefore the one I was looking foward to reading the most. Hope someone comes up with something good.
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Just playing to improve.
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less than 24 hours left imo. looking for a good one on sizing in 3bet pots. ***
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Thats the one that really made my mind go blank, and therefore the one I was looking foward to reading the most. Hope someone comes up with something good. |
cool, that and delayed c-betting are the only two I've bothered putting any work into. Now I have to condense 4pages of 3-bet notes into something coherent... Balance I'll gain more from reading, levelling bores me, and initiative reversal maybe applies less in the small stakes full-ring games I play?
also, I'll be sending in two definition essay things - but am not sure whether I'll play the prize session even if what I write is deemed good enough. Something about playing a game-style I'm unfamiliar with (6-max) at a table where I won't expect to have any edge (6-max regs who can write decent theory) at a stake (100nl) that I deem material in both bankroll and real $ terms...
by the way - writing these is ++++EV regardless of what happens next...
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This is awesome, but my weekend didn't work out like I wanted it to. I've only gotten one submission done. I've worked on two others (and benefitted from thinking about this stuff), so I'm happy. Good luck to everyone who is trying to win this (it won't be me), and thanks again to nutshino for making the offer.
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the time?
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Full House
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spot on =)
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Thank you Nuts, I think this is really damn cool for you to give up a ton of your time to help out the forum regs. Creating this thread and subsequent definition threads will be a huge contribution to the forum that you paid for with winnings/time you have forgone.
I'm not real happy with one of my definitions, but at least I sent two in. They take longer than you can imagine unless you have a great understanding of the concept and one of those rare brains that organizes thoughts on paper into a coherent structure very quickly.
Since it is getting close to Noon, good luck everyone!
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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