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Old 11-17-2009, 02:05 AM     Post subject: Weird spot with AA in 3bet pot. #1 (permalink)  
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Villain seems semiloose pretty aggro. 33/20/3 (AF). The turn is a missed check/raise since I figure floats are a pretty big part of his range and I dont hate giving a free card. The river confuses me. The flush is obviously much less likely since I hold the A. So it seems hes just repping a FH/Quads. Whatever hes repping it beats me, but its a pretty thin range and my hand is underrepped. Whats my action?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
2 folds, CO bets $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.25) 6, 3, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

Turn: ($25.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($25.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $208.30 (All-In), Hero tanks ($35ish to call).
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Not bet bet betting here is pretty bad. He has a ton of hands in his range that might just pot control turn, but that can potentially stack on this board.

As played, wow I think I'm calling. Our hand looks like Ax or something, so we're way under repped and I'd expect someone so aggro would bet a flush on the turn or raise a FD on the flop.

Feel like we're only really worried about 6's full or 54 and who knows what madness he's turning into a bluff.
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 griffey: u bet 3/5 pot with Ace hi on river? i think our hand looks like QQ-AA

Pelion: just bet the turn. nearly all of his floats are now a pair (check behind) or ace hi (check behind). bet turn shove river every time without a concrete read that he is a total monkey after calling a 3bet
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:07 PM #4 (permalink)  
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i would fold river regrettably but ideally i would b/call the turn.
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 I'd also bet the turn.
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griffey: u bet 3/5 pot with Ace hi on river? i think our hand looks like QQ-AA
Ok I agree that our hand probably isn't A high that often but at the same time, after checking the turn our hand rarely looks like a hand we want to play for stacks.

So I'd imagine it looks more like 77-99 than QQ-AA (which villain will likely expect us to barrel often).

Not sure if that changes things... he could think he has more room to bluff us off our range here after turn goes ck ck and we fire river for 'thin value' in his eyes.

In any case, bet bet bet always.... river is meh spot now.
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:50 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Ok thanks guys. I agree that it probably should have been bet bet bet since his 77 type hands arent going to bet the turn a lot, and his A highs are probably going to think they are ahead, and there isnt much to semibluff that isnt already a pair.

Results: I came really really really close to folding, and called with like 1 second to go since Id shown so much weakness and I know hes aggro. He shows 55 ldo.
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on a 633 board,7$ cbet is fine

You ahve to bet the 5diamond turn to like 12 or 13$ if you ever want to stack him. OTherwise, stacks won't be right for a river shove. If he calls the turn bet, then I just shove the river.

As played, snap call the river
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