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Warpe
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08-22-2007, 02:00 PM
Post subject: TT flop decision, rr pot
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2nd orbit, villain unknown but seems a little weak/tight...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($69.90)
Hero ($51.15)
Button ($49)
SB ($79.20)
BB ($57.40)
UTG ($29.30)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T , T .
1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4.
Flop: ($17.25) 6 , 7 , 4 (3 players)
BB bets $16.75, MP folds, Hero???
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Thee One
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Fold. You're behind his range and drawing to 2 outs. I don't think he plays AK this way.
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bode
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i fold. 3-bet pre?
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Galapogos
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I usually 3-bet this preflop. Easy fold on flop.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Warpe
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Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
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WildBobAA
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I like the call and not a 4 preflop. And it's a good fold on the flop vs a guy you think is weak/tight
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
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What do you think you're making him fold? If you know he'll fold JJ+ then by all means.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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larsmars
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
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Kamikaze.
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opp probably aint gonna fold to a shove making a shove a terrible terrible play
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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EzDuzIt
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3bet preflop. when you play it like you did preflop your basically playing it for a set.
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WildBobAA
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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
3bet preflop. when you play it like you did preflop your basically playing it for a set.
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He would be 4-betting preflop. Playing TT for a set isn't bad when you're being crushed by BB's range, you have position, and there is a 3rd person in the pot.
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EzDuzIt
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no, go back and look at the action. he calls a bet preflop before the BB even gets to act. he should have 3bet there first.
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WildBobAA
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blind = first bet, mp raise = 2nd bet, bb raise = 3rd bet
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thizzSantaCruz
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hero is CO and calls between the MP1s opening raise and BBs eventual 3bet
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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EzDuzIt
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
blind = first bet, mp raise = 2nd bet, bb raise = 3rd bet
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lol?????????????????????????
hero called mp's raise before the bb even acted.....................................
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WildBobAA
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Ok let me ask you this, say it folds to you on the button and you make it $1.50. Then the small blind raises to $6 and BB folds. Did you just get 2-bet or 3-bet?
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EzDuzIt
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lol you have to be fucking leveling me now. just go back and reread the fucking op instead of thinking that we dont know what a 3bet is.
"1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4. "
HERO CALLS MP'S RAISE. HERO COULD HAVE 3BET THERE. THE BB DIDNT EVEN ACT YET. WOW.
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WildBobAA
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Ah ok, I just reread your first post. I thought you were telling him to raise BB's bet, not the initial bet. We are both right.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
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Kamikaze.
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Ash256
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I instafold. Whilst he could have AK, we're behind his range. I personally like a 3bet pre.
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I doubt he is pushing AK into two people, unless it is AKh.
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Originally Posted by PokerMuzz
I doubt he is pushing AK into two people, unless it is AKh.
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3bet a lot pf tho calling isnt "bad"
definitely fold flop and its not even close
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
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If I accidentally bumped my mouse and called this bet and the villain dropped his mouse and accidentally checked turn, I'd be inclined to check behind.
Would the bet be to steal or just hurry up and end the hand now because the pot is big and the villain appears to have missed? The "take it away" part got me a little off there
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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
lol you have to be fucking leveling me now. just go back and reread the fucking op instead of thinking that we dont know what a 3bet is.
"1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4. "
HERO CALLS MP'S RAISE. HERO COULD HAVE 3BET THERE. THE BB DIDNT EVEN ACT YET. WOW.
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lol good shit
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Ash256
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Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
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Would the bet be to steal or just hurry up and end the hand now because the pot is big and the villain appears to have missed? The "take it away" part got me a little off there
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Or maybe we're floating and using our hand as air (that beats villain according to him)? Just a thought.
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SmackinYaUp
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Possibly but I wouldn't to try and take it away from someone who reraised preflop from OOP and fired into 2 opponents and has less than a PSB stack. If so that would be one hell of a steal!
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Warpe
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I pushed, he folded.
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SmackinYaUp
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wow i am running cold on ftr
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