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Old 08-22-2007, 02:00 PM     Post subject: TT flop decision, rr pot #1 (permalink)  
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2nd orbit, villain unknown but seems a little weak/tight...

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MP ($69.90)
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Button ($49)
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BB ($57.40)
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Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($17.25) 6, 7, 4 (3 players)
BB bets $16.75, MP folds, Hero???
 
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:17 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold. You're behind his range and drawing to 2 outs. I don't think he plays AK this way.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i fold. 3-bet pre?
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:19 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I usually 3-bet this preflop. Easy fold on flop.


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Old 08-23-2007, 03:50 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:34 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I like the call and not a 4 preflop. And it's a good fold on the flop vs a guy you think is weak/tight
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:36 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
What do you think you're making him fold? If you know he'll fold JJ+ then by all means.


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Old 08-23-2007, 05:03 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
Kamikaze.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:05 PM #9 (permalink)  
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opp probably aint gonna fold to a shove making a shove a terrible terrible play
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:57 PM #10 (permalink)  
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3bet preflop. when you play it like you did preflop your basically playing it for a set.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:17 PM #11 (permalink)  
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3bet preflop. when you play it like you did preflop your basically playing it for a set.
He would be 4-betting preflop. Playing TT for a set isn't bad when you're being crushed by BB's range, you have position, and there is a 3rd person in the pot.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:32 PM #12 (permalink)  
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no, go back and look at the action. he calls a bet preflop before the BB even gets to act. he should have 3bet there first.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:41 PM #13 (permalink)  
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blind = first bet, mp raise = 2nd bet, bb raise = 3rd bet
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:50 PM #14 (permalink)  
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hero is CO and calls between the MP1s opening raise and BBs eventual 3bet
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:03 PM #15 (permalink)  
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blind = first bet, mp raise = 2nd bet, bb raise = 3rd bet
lol?????????????????????????

hero called mp's raise before the bb even acted.....................................
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:04 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Ok let me ask you this, say it folds to you on the button and you make it $1.50. Then the small blind raises to $6 and BB folds. Did you just get 2-bet or 3-bet?
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:06 PM #17 (permalink)  
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lol you have to be fucking leveling me now. just go back and reread the fucking op instead of thinking that we dont know what a 3bet is.

"1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4. "

HERO CALLS MP'S RAISE. HERO COULD HAVE 3BET THERE. THE BB DIDNT EVEN ACT YET. WOW.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:07 PM #18 (permalink)  
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Ah ok, I just reread your first post. I thought you were telling him to raise BB's bet, not the initial bet. We are both right.
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:42 PM #19 (permalink)  
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Anybody like a shove, if we think villain is capable of folding?
Kamikaze.
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:49 PM #20 (permalink)  
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I instafold. Whilst he could have AK, we're behind his range. I personally like a 3bet pre.
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:27 PM #21 (permalink)  
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I doubt he is pushing AK into two people, unless it is AKh.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:48 PM #22 (permalink)  
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I doubt he is pushing AK into two people, unless it is AKh.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:05 PM #23 (permalink)  
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3bet a lot pf tho calling isnt "bad"
definitely fold flop and its not even close
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:04 PM #24 (permalink)  
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Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
 
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:36 PM #25 (permalink)  
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Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
If I accidentally bumped my mouse and called this bet and the villain dropped his mouse and accidentally checked turn, I'd be inclined to check behind.

Would the bet be to steal or just hurry up and end the hand now because the pot is big and the villain appears to have missed? The "take it away" part got me a little off there

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lol you have to be fucking leveling me now. just go back and reread the fucking op instead of thinking that we dont know what a 3bet is.

"1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4. "

HERO CALLS MP'S RAISE. HERO COULD HAVE 3BET THERE. THE BB DIDNT EVEN ACT YET. WOW.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:29 AM #26 (permalink)  
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Folding is prudent. If I'm going to continue then I would call and take it away if he checks the turn.
Would the bet be to steal or just hurry up and end the hand now because the pot is big and the villain appears to have missed? The "take it away" part got me a little off there
Or maybe we're floating and using our hand as air (that beats villain according to him)? Just a thought.
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:23 PM #27 (permalink)  
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Possibly but I wouldn't to try and take it away from someone who reraised preflop from OOP and fired into 2 opponents and has less than a PSB stack. If so that would be one hell of a steal!
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:58 PM #28 (permalink)  
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I pushed, he folded.
 
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:34 PM #29 (permalink)  
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