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Da GOAT
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02-22-2009, 07:59 PM
Post subject: TT 3way 3bet pot 100nl
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Straight Flush
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PFRer was 15/15 over 13 hands so basically unknown but 1 hand in 13 is nitty.
3better is 24/13 with nil squeeze stat.
I just opted to not 3bet TT here, I usually would but opted to flat. BB is a fish too which makes it okay.
How do you like my line?? I figure when its checked to me I likely have the best hand.
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG deformedpenis ($100.00)
UTG+1 akme7 ($116.00)
CO Kamaitachi ($101.50)
BTN Hero ($100.00)
SB cusmar45 ($182.90)
BB japiejong ($60.85)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, Kamaitachi raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, cusmar45 raises to $10, 1 fold, Kamaitachi calls $6.50, Hero calls $6.50
Flop: ($31, 3 players)
cusmar45 checks, Kamaitachi checks, Hero bets $21, cusmar45 raises to $100, Kamaitachi folds, Hero calls $69
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yourfather
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Full House
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I like b/f flop I think but idk and im a nit.
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gametight
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dont mind the bet, but Im snap folding to the shove. His line looks like QQ,KK,AA with a tiny bit of AKdd.
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meeloche
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I don't get what you think he's shoving with that you beat other than maybe a diamond draw which you could end up just flipping with.
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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Its a pretty sweet spot for him to cr allin AKo. Im repping pretty much exaclty what i have.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
Its a pretty sweet spot for him to cr allin AKo. Im repping pretty much exaclty what i have.
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I think it's a pretty awful spot. His 3-bet was pretty small, a good sign he wants action and it's not a squeeze (outside of a read). You bet after calling a 3-bet in a 3-way pot while people are normally pretty cautious in 3-bet pots. He won't expect you to fold a FD because no one does in 3-bet pots. And he has no clue what you're repping because he sucks.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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griffey24
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hmmm.. easiest b/f ever?...
Agree with meeloche, best case is flipping with a FD.
I think you're reaching if you're trying to put him on exactly AK!
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I didn't realize he c/r. I'd still probably b/f without more reads that he's a spaz or something or if this isn't a normal line for him.
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bigspenda73
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if I bet I'd bet/call, i haven't run the math on it though
everyone always bet when it's checked to us here?
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thizzSantaCruz
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The call preflop is fine. Flop is a very easy fold and I do like betting here. There are too many bad cards for us and 2 other people in the pot with us. Try to take it down now.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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noble007
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I check behind here a fair amount and if I bet I call the cr shove.
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Currently thinking of a new quote/signature... Some sort of prayer to the Poker gods for enlightment etc..
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griffey24
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A few people have mentioned this, but I really don't think this is one of those "If I bet, I have to call a shove" kind of spots.
People that want to b/c TT here, are you also b/c 67 here? I'd MUCH prefer to b/c 67 here than TT (assuming that he's very likely never doing this with a hand like 88/99), cause at least we much much better equity when behind, and pretty much the same equity when ahead. But somehow I feel like a lot of people would b/f 67 much more easily than TT here.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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bigspenda73
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If we don't think he's balanced at all and will bet QQ+,AQ and c/r flush draws then we have more than enough equity to bet/call.
I'm just not sure I'd bet all that often in this spot.
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noble007
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I mainly call the cr shove because of his weak pre-flop 3bet sizing.
If he's the type of player who thinks he has to 3bet/raise small to keep people in and get action on his good hands then why does he do the opposite post flop.
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Currently thinking of a new quote/signature... Some sort of prayer to the Poker gods for enlightment etc..
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by noble007
I mainly call the cr shove because of his weak pre-flop 3bet sizing.
If he's the type of player who thinks he has to 3bet/raise small to keep people in and get action on his good hands then why does he do the opposite post flop.
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One of the biggest leaks I've plugged is I stopped trying to assign logical reasoning to bad player's actions.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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griffey24
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Man this thread tilts me so hard.
I don't even think I'm giving him enough credit in this range for having legit hands... but nonetheless...
Board: 6c 2d Qd
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.204% 26.20% 00.00% 6226 0.00 { TcTh }
Hand 1: 73.796% 73.80% 00.00% 17534 0.00 { KcKs, AcKc, AdKd, AhKh, AQs, AdJd, KQs, KdJd, Td9d, AhKd, AhKs, KQo }
I'm gonna go and play a session now.. and c/bomb every flop, since apparently people seem to want to call with any pair..
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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Da GOAT
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i done some stoving and its not great lol, i agree with Gman
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Alexos
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grif, its still kinda close since we're getting more than 2:1
agree about calling 67 though
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