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05-08-2009, 02:02 AM
Post subject: TT in a 3b pot
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villain is a 27/20 with 11% 3b over 55 hands
no reads
I thought a queen will hit his range less often than a king and that I'm either going to be up against a higher flush draw or a pair most of the time
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($103.60)
UTG ($159.45)
Hero (MP) ($117.20)
CO ($95.50)
Button ($100)
SB ($100.05)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 10 , 10
1 fold, Hero bets $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB raises to $15, Hero calls $11, 1 fold
Flop: ($34) 2, 3, 6 (2 players)
BB bets $27, Hero calls $27
Turn: ($88) Q (2 players)
BB bets $61.60 (All-In), Hero calls $61.60
River: ($211.20) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $211.20 | Rake: $3
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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shove the flop and I think you have to call the turn as played
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bspahn
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Full House
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it's a pretty bad board for him to cbet imo without a hand at all.
also note you raised MP so in general i would say that his range is smaller than you might think from that 11% 3bet stat (also 55 hands is nothing)
its a tricky spot. you're ahead of pure bluffs and hands like AK/AQ that don't have clubs. you're dead to a lot of hands he can have here.
IF you think your club is a clean out i'd probably like a small reraise or shove on flop - take the money if he's bluffing, and otherwise flip a lot of the time.
turn is tough, many players auto shove any Q/K/A in this spot because they expect you to fold hands like 99-JJ. really good hands he's repping with this play would be QQ/KK/AA/AQ right?
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well my club is clean some of the time and some of the time it's not
if he has a made flush I'm obv dead, but he has it 4% of the time... depending on his range
but if he has one club it's higher than mine, but I have a good chance of being good - if he has AK with one club he could definitely pull this line which is the hand that I expected to have the most equity against I'm not sure he would do that with AK with no clubs
obviously shoving flop makes the hand a lot easier to play
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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Shovin flop wud be my line. calling turn is fine too
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Fnord
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Like the more aggro line for online poker. Stronger case for flatting live.
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bode
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shove the flop fo sho
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DMTZen
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is this guy super aggro? if it was played a little slower and called to the river, would you have called his push??
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nutsinho
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obviously shove flop......
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Sugar Nut
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I don't like shoving flop. I raise small and call a shove though. Looks more bluffy imo. But maybe that's just me because when I bluff here I take a r/f line pretty often. I very very rarely ship over cbets in 3bet pots IP.
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
I don't like shoving flop. I raise small and call a shove though. Looks more bluffy imo. But maybe that's just me because when I bluff here I take a r/f line pretty often. I very very rarely ship over cbets in 3bet pots IP.
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look at his bet size, there's only one bet left in the pot, from a pot size perspective it's a shove
although if you're going to minraise bluff here with missed overs I guess it's good to take the same line with an overpair
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nutsinho
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i would like to say a minraise doesnt actually look like a bluff here but more to the point: he wont shove any hands over a minraise that you want him to shove that would also fold if you shoved.
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mixchange
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Shove flop, but as played Zook how can we call turn?
Seems all we beat now is a pure bluff, like AK with a club.
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