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kmind
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09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
Post subject: TT 100nl
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Only 70 stats on villain (23/20) but he was stealing 32% of the time with 100% cbet. Turn aggression was 50% as well as river. Should I bet looking to fold somewhere? No idea on his 3bet calling range btw.
What scares me is obviously his range is tightening up on the turn and river and it'd seem that overpairs I beat would most likely just check/call turn/river but that's just assuming. AsKs will keep betting but will A7?
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($101.95)
UTG 1 ($101.50)
CO ($107.05)
BTN ($92.15)
Hero ($102.00)
BB ($101.95)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB  
3 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3, 1 fold
Flop:    ($8, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6
Turn:  ($20, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14, Hero calls $14
River:  ($48, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $28, Hero calls $28
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dalecooper
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I'm not folding this because draws didn't get there - he might think you have one and he's trying to get you to fold it, because his hand has little showdown value. Also the board hasn't really changed at all relative to your hand. I'd look him up and take a note on whatever he ends up having.
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minSim
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I'd play it the same
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minSim
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I'd play it the same
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zook
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I'd play it the same
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kmind
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Thanks but not the replies I was hoping for actually. I kind of hoped I was playing my medium/biggish pots poorly (this type of situation has come up a lot) but I guess these are just coolers. Thank you all again!
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bigspenda73
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I 3bet/5bet PF like 90% of the time here for value.
I'm also not opposed to c/r'ing+stacking off on the flop or check/call flop donk/call turn.
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kmind
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You really think a lot of 100nlers get it in preflop with worse than TT?
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bigspenda73
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No, but they'll 4bet bluff enough to make 5bet shoving good.
I didn't mean 5betting for value, meant 3betting for value and shoving over a small 4bet.
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meeloche
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Postflop
c/r and getting it in has some merrit vs an agro reg with some history. But this line is fine as well.
Preflop
I like not just auto 3 betting cause omg I have 1010. Thinking about calling ranges is going to make you so much more money.
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minSim
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
No, but they'll 4bet bluff enough to make 5bet shoving good.
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Imo this is quite important. If you study a bit on what equity/FE you need to make shoving over a 4bet profitable it will change how you think about 3betting as well.
It will stop you from only thinking like:
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You really think a lot of 100nlers get it in preflop with worse than TT?
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Da GOAT
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Im agreeing with spenda. Im 3betting in this spot preflop especially OOP, IP its ok imo to call if opp is super aggro postflop then call them down but its vital to be IP.
If im 4bet I def consider shoving. even easier if Ive 3bet him some from blinds already.
On flop Im c/r'ing lookin to get it in vs btn c/b.
kmind I 5bet at 100nl last night with TT also and took it down preflop so yes they are doing it. tho in fairness I had 3bet opp some already without SD, his was about same stats as your opp.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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nutsinho
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as a bare minimum i like to 3bet with TT+/AQ+ for value specifically from the small blind vs button open. This is my most liberal 3bet situation vs regs, so I like to keep my value range pretty wide. I am generally prepared to ship any of those hands over a 4bet in the games i play, but you should probably dump AQo/AQs in the upper low/lower mid stakes w/out serious history. I also frequently happily 3bet KQ/AJ/99 here: the high cards vs people who float 3bets in position with random suited crap, and midpairs occasionally down to 88 preparing to stack off when im in battle mode w/ someone.
In a big blind vs button dynamic, its more viable to call very liberally preflop so you can include more big hands to balance your A8s/J9s/KTo calls. But please, please, 3bet your good hands from the small blind vs a steal.
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minSim
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Nice post nutsinho...
Even at my micro/small stakes people are sqeeuzing more and more, so the difference in being SB or BB becomes more and more important. I never thought about it much, but you saying this makes it so clear. Thanks.
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kmind
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Very nice guys. Appreciate it a bunch!
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griffey24
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Mixing up flatting pre and 3-betting TT here is fine. Especially if he's the type that will barrel on you with air or something, but folds lots of 3-bets, then I don't mind flatting strongish hands.
Once you flat pre, I play it the same and def call down since all draws missed.
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