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will641
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01-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Post subject: trying to take another stab at 1/2
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villain is rebuyfoolAA and i have him at 18/15. cant remember AF, but im pretty sure hes around 3, and this is over about 400 hands. i just added raise cbet% to my HUD, and it said 40% for him. im positive i was looking at the right thing, so based on this and the fact that the board is fairly drawy, i shove. i figure he calls with any combo draws, folds any air which i wont get any value from on later streets anyways.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($223.85)
Hero ($235)
MP ($45.40)
CO ($200)
Button ($134.50)
SB ($201)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A .
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, 3 folds.
Flop: ($19) 6 , T , 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, CO raises to $42, Hero raises to $227
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IowaSkinsFan
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griffey24
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I like the shove here. Mostly because we have the Ad, so if a third diamond comes on the turn, I won't be able to avoid stacking off anyway.
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meeloche
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I would play same
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nh. I added raise cbet% to my HUD after seeing ISF advocate it in another thread. I havent played any sessions with it added yet but this seems like the perfect hand for it.
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thizzSantaCruz
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If his raise cbet % is really 40 he is either way to aggro or no one is really cbetting into him that much in the 400 hands you have.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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just fyi on raise cont bet (i may be wrong)
0-10% very tight. Doesn't really raise draws unless they are monsters.
10%-16% raises draws usually, can be raising gutshots and air
+16% very very aggressive
Although these numbers don't become accurate until there's a pretty big sample.
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will641
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Originally Posted by Massimo
just fyi on raise cont bet (i may be wrong)
0-10% very tight. Doesn't really raise draws unless they are monsters.
10%-16% raises draws usually, can be raising gutshots and air
+16% very very aggressive
Although these numbers don't become accurate until there's a pretty big sample.
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yeah this is helpful, because i dont really know what is what when it comes to these %. 40 seems out of this world to me.
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IowaSkinsFan
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It was 40% probably because of a very small sample size.
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will641
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
It was 40% probably because of a very small sample size.
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400 hands is small. granted i just added the stat, so i only had about 40 hands with the stat up, but that doesnt make a difference right? HUD takes all 400 hands right?
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meeloche
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
It was 40% probably because of a very small sample size.
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400 hands is small. granted i just added the stat, so i only had about 40 hands with the stat up, but that doesnt make a difference right? HUD takes all 400 hands right?
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yes it would use all 400
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idk sometimes it really glitchy, but you also have to take into consideration that if someone isn't cold calling pre than he's not going to get a lot of shots at check raising.
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lol, i had a guy to my left earlier that was raising 37% of cbets over 3k hands.
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Genitruc
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way more value in calling flop raise and then shoving over any turn bet here since he's bluffing so often on this flop and you have
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
way more value in calling flop raise and then shoving over any turn bet here since he's bluffing so often on this flop and you have 
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Maybe in position, but since we're OOP shoving seems best.
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Genitruc
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
way more value in calling flop raise and then shoving over any turn bet here since he's bluffing so often on this flop and you have 
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Maybe in position, but since we're OOP shoving seems best.
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oops that s true didn t notice OOP; I just usually fold my aces OOP so I assumed we had position.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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More than 40% of flops miss the PFR hand. In position against a player who is known to frequently cbet, having a 40% cbet raise doesn't seem like a bad strat.
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