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jackvance
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06-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Post subject: trips facing river shove
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(no HH so gonna describe it from ingame log)
My stack $40.60 SB
Villain stack $67.2 BB
I get A J
fold, limp, fold, I raise to $2, villain calls, fold
flop: A 5 A pot $4.20
I check, villain bets $2.20, I call
turn: 10 pot $8.60
I check, villain bets $4.40, I raise to $10.10, he calls
river: 2 pot $28.80
I check, he shoves pretty fast.. $25.60 for me to call
I folded here, but thinking I shoulda called maybe, I mean, what can he have? Do I beat his range.
Also critique welcome on the rest of the hand, I opted to mostly slowplay here because at this limit yesterday I had a hard time getting paid off if I bet all my good hands strongly, so I opted to add some slowplay/caution today
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Galapogos
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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why didn't you bet the flop?
why are you attempting to check/raise the turn and potentially give a heart draw a free look at the river? why is the turn raise so small?
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jackvance
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Started playing again yesterday so really rusty. I checked because I was pretty sure he was gonna bet again, and I didn't raise too hard because I didn't want to commit myself too much (just pressed the bet 1/2 pot button I think). And yeah I really shoulda just bet the flop.. cuz I actually instacalled the river for some reason and he flipped Qh9h.. wtf?
So yeah I'm having some problems getting back in the game, especially in big/medium pots where I pay off way too often, although my winrate seems kinda ok, 7-10ptBB/100 depending on how many tables I play.
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
You beat nothing but a bluff.
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You beat most aces that didn't boat up, and I think thats most of his range to be honest. I'm confused by the hand though, I'm guessing the limper folded and somebody called your raise behind you?
I don't fold here, especially after playing the hand so passively, it doesn't look like you have an ace here. I would bet flop turn and river too.
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Originally Posted by JJDAMAN
I don't fold here, especially after playing the hand so passively, it doesn't look like you have an ace here. I would bet flop turn and river too.
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after the turn CR, i think it's pretty obvious villain knows hero has a A here.
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oops, I misread the action. I still think villain's most likely holding is an ace so i still call. I would probably just push river. Opponents at these stakes wont fold trips weak kicker, and it could easily be what he thinks is a value bet.
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jackvance
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Originally Posted by JJDAMAN
oops, I misread the action. I still think villain's most likely holding is an ace so i still call. I would probably just push river. Opponents at these stakes wont fold trips weak kicker, and it could easily be what he thinks is a value bet.
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Well looking back this whole thing coulda been avoided had i just bet the flop like I normally would have. He actually had nothing but his steal attempt backed into a runner runner flush. It's just that I see fold fold fold all day, ah well.
And my c/r amount was kinda pathetic, it didn't price his draw at all. Ofcourse I put him on an A and I was kinda wondering if his kicker was better or worse than mine, and I didn't want to push out the weaker ones.
River is a fold though I think.. he isn't gonna shove anything that I beat behind me..
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