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Jay67s
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01-11-2007, 02:07 PM
Post subject: Trips with AK
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Villian is a semi Loose to loose tag -- 30/20 over 200 hands. If it matters villian is Fgators26 of BBV fame. I rarely slow play, but decided to in this case.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($99.20)
Button ($100.80)
SB ($41.20)
BB ($100)
UTG ($393.45)
MP ($104.60)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , K .
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, Button calls $3, 2 folds.
Flop: ($7.50) K , J , K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero calls $6.
Turn: ($19.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button raises to $40, Hero ??
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seoul_child1
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this a push or fold situation. "Why didn't u 3-bet him on the flop", that would make ur decision alot easier on the turn. have u seen any previous hands shown down in which he called a pre-flop raise with?? he may think ur BS since u checked and only called the flop... as played I'd FOLD, cause when i make a mistake in how i play a certain hand i do not want to compound that with losing a buy-in because of my stupidity.
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WildBobAA
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Weird hand. Your turn bet looks weird and he might have interpreted it as weak. I'm shoving this. He probably 3-bets you preflop with JJ and if he has 66, you deserve to go broke here. Other than that, you're ahead unless you got really unlucky and he has KJ.
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bode
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griffey24
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I really find it hard to believe that villain would have KJ and bet $6 on the flop into a $7.50 pot,when you checked to him. There's no way villain has J's or KJ ..
I think you gotta push this turn, and if he somehow caught his set with 6's, then good hand.
You're ahead, I'm pretty sure.
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Renton
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betting the flop is overwhelmingly the best play here imo.
As played I call the turn, and consider checking/calling the river.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by griffey24
I really find it hard to believe that villain would have KJ and bet $6 on the flop into a $7.50 pot,when you checked to him.
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If he's smart it isn't. He wants to build a pot.
Yeah I bet the flop, and I probably shove too. Your hand is underrepped, He's probably easily going to do this with KQ or some loose call with KT, or he could have some junk draw.
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nutsinho
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call and bet the rivvver
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Harry
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I push... Could be KQ, KT, QThh... there are a lot of hands you beat here, all of which call a push. I don't think you should wait till the river.
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nutsinho
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yeah pushing is slightly better i guess...im just a douche bag
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chardrian
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Why did you donkbet the turn instead of checkraising the flop?
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Jay67s
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I just tried a different line, 9 times out of 10 I bet the flop or check raise it. I pushed on the turn after his raise, he showed JJ
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by Jay67s
I just tried a different line, 9 times out of 10 I bet the flop or check raise it. I pushed on the turn after his raise, he showed JJ
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... and you spiked a 6 to win? =)
wow.. I'm surprised villain had JJ. Well good for him, for pounding a flopped boat so hard.
Just out of curiosity, if we're in villains position, do other ppl bet so hard on that flop, facing a check from the PF raiser?
From villain's perspective, is this one of those instances where "If he has a king, he'll call any size bet, and if he doesn't have a king, he'll fold any size bet"? So if you overbet on the flop, opponent might not put you on such a strong hand (ie: me assuming he didn't have a boat, given his flop bet size)
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by Jay67s
I just tried a different line, 9 times out of 10 I bet the flop or check raise it. I pushed on the turn after his raise, he showed JJ
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... and you spiked a 6 to win? =)
wow.. I'm surprised villain had JJ. Well good for him, for pounding a flopped boat so hard.
Just out of curiosity, if we're in villains position, do other ppl bet so hard on that flop, facing a check from the PF raiser?
From villain's perspective, is this one of those instances where "If he has a king, he'll call any size bet, and if he doesn't have a king, he'll fold any size bet"? So if you overbet on the flop, opponent might not put you on such a strong hand (ie: me assuming he didn't have a boat, given his flop bet size)
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yes. Hero either has a big hand or nothing and JJ is getting paid or is geting nothing, hence hit and hope.
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