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03-25-2010, 05:54 PM
Post subject: A triple barrel vs a random TAG
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is 23/16 over 40 hands I haven't played much with him yet and have no reads or notes. My image thus far at this tables was pretty aggro, but it was a really small sample since I'd just opened this table.
I wouldn't always open preflop here, but the blinds were both incredibly nitty.
I planned on c-betting so that I could fire any turns that gave me equity or were scare cards against hios weakish range of most likely medium/low pairs and floats.
The turn seemed good enough to barrel and i felt that if I couldn't fold out hands like 88 etc here than I could on the river a ton of the time.
River seems like a fun card to force him off most of his range. I doubt he ever has a flush here. I rep flushes, kings, AA and sets pretty well here imo.
Does this look okay?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($50)
BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($57.50)
MP ($50)
Button ($69.25)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , 10
Hero bets $2, MP calls $2, 3 folds
Flop: ($4.75) 9, 4 , 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50
Turn: ($9.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, MP calls $7.50
River: ($24.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $19.70
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shakesss
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His turn call looks really strong to me. I think most of the range you are trying to get him off would have folded to that turn bet. The bottom of his turn calling range is JJ with a heart IMO. I would give up on the river. Looks like he has a boat.
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tom'NOT'dwan
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Two Pair
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Hold fire on the river imo, the only hands your folding are 9,xh.
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eragotte
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Flush
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what do you run carroters?
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eragotte
what do you run carroters?
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Varies greatly on the table obviously. My standrad over a large sample is 23/20, but if the tables full of fit or foldfish or full of nits I can be 32/28 pretty easily or looser.
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Da GOAT
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really bad turn bet imo, what hands u think he has vs utg in mp
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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gabe
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i would bet a tad smaller. i think turn bet is fine, he just has a pocket pair a lot of the time
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bspahn
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Full House
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id prefer to barrel this with a hand like AhQx or AhKx because of the NFD outs plus if the river is Q/K/A you can actually have it and get paid off by TT/JJ
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eragotte
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Flush
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Quote:
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Varies greatly on the table obviously. My standrad over a large sample is 23/20, but if the tables full of fit or foldfish or full of nits I can be 32/28 pretty easily or looser.
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haha cool, was jus curious, im glad you are selective with your aggromonkey gear :P
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Dex
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Straight
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I like this. Obviously the king is a good card to barrel the river on but since the majority of villain's range is stuff like 66-88, TT, T9/J9 kinda hands and sometimes JJ being faced with 3 barrels from an UTG pfr is always going to blow.
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minSim
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Fine imo, a little smaller on the river looks more like a vbet imo AND it's cheaper. He has a low-mid PP so often on the turn, you're definately folding enough on turn/river.
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bigspenda73
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
really bad turn bet imo, what hands u think he has vs utg in mp
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come on meow, it's also just 5-handed
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Da GOAT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
come on meow, it's also just 5-handed
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Sorry, I still don't like it. 
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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bigspenda73
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so's your face
ps: AIM, beeyatch
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pocketfours
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Super easy turn bet. Give up river.
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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I wouldn't normally post results, but it was kinda lol when he looked me up with KdJc on the river.
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
so's your face
ps: AIM, beeyatch
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hey get on msn bcoz you're like my only aim friend. plus its not on my pcs anymore.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Turns a good bet rivers bad. I think i';d bluff every card except a K. It's a card he probably perceives that you'll bluff and could easily hero call + he may already have a nut hand
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minSim
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbr2intheWorld
Turns a good bet rivers bad. I think i';d bluff every card except a K. It's a card he probably perceives that you'll bluff and could easily hero call + he may already have a nut hand
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Do you assume the turn bet already is folding a decent amount of pocket pairs <9x?
Or is it just that we're having a decent amount of equity ont the turn and villain could have floated the flop and fold some low PP's, so in all it's +EV to bet. And on the river his range is 9x-QQ(not folding)+nutted hands mostly?
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