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Warpe
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08-25-2006, 05:06 PM
Post subject: TPTK at very loose table.
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UTG is 53/16, MP is 57/11. Normally, I wouldn't do this with only TPTK, but given previous hands I thought the shove was worth a shot. Thoughts? (I have this session on video)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG ($72.20)
MP ($483.59)
CO ($206.05)
Button ($197)
Hero ($331.25)
BB ($286.95)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , K . Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG calls $8, MP calls $8.
Flop: ($38) Q, 9 , 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.
Turn: ($38) A (3 players)
Hero bets $25, UTG calls $60.20 (All-In), MP calls $60.20, Hero calls $294.25 (All-In), MP calls $259.05.
River: ($736.70) 8 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $736.70
Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
Hero has Ac Kd (one pair, aces).
UTG has Kh 7h (high card, ace).
MP has 2h Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $736.70. [/color
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Robert
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Normally I would be very worried about MP calling UTGs allin raise, but given your read that tells us that they are both fish, I think a shove here is correct (to punish MP's flush draws and weaker aces). Btw, raise much more preflop (I make it around $15-16 to go), you want the pot HU with AK, not multiway
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Fnord
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I like every street.
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gabe
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i would raise this alot more preflop knowing they are calling with worse hands
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by gabe
i would raise this alot more preflop knowing they are calling with worse hands
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There is balance here. On the other hand you don't want to blow them off their hands pre-flop and want to give yourself room to out-play them post-flop.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by gabe
i would raise this alot more preflop knowing they are calling with worse hands
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There is balance here. On the other hand you don't want to blow them off their hands pre-flop and want to give yourself room to out-play them post-flop. |
UTG was typically raising 6X-7XBB preflop, then throwing in these preflop minraises every once in a while, so the market might've borne $16. I was usually raising 4XBB and reraising 3X the bet, so much more than that and I'm tipping/repping more than I want to, I think.
When players are raising that much preflop, do you adapt to their (higher) standard or just stick to your usual range?
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drtofu66
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08-25-2006, 08:33 PM
Post subject: Re: TPTK at very loose table.
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Originally Posted by Warpe
(I have this session on video)
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Can we convince you to get it archived in the Poker Videos section?
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samsonite2100
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Raise $18-ish PF. Raising $11 is an invitation for multiple 57/11 fishies to come along for the ride, and you def. want to be isolating here.
Otherwise, nice hand.
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Warpe
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08-25-2006, 09:26 PM
Post subject: Re: TPTK at very loose table.
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Originally Posted by drtofu66
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Originally Posted by Warpe
(I have this session on video)
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Can we convince you to get it archived in the Poker Videos section? |
There's some audio synch problems with it and I'm not sure how instructional it is but, yeah, I can upload it if people are interested.
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drtofu66
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08-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Post subject: Re: TPTK at very loose table.
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Originally Posted by Warpe
There's some audio synch problems with it and I'm not sure how instructional it is but, yeah, I can upload it if people are interested.
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It's always instructional to look over the shoulder of a solid winning player IMHO.
C'mon fellow noobs! Speak up! Get a hand in and convince Warpe to upload it!
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liebs
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
57/11 fishies
Otherwise, nice hand.
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I'd be grateful for an explanation of 57/11?
is this a stat form Poker-tracker?
If so, could you explain its meaning. I use Poker Office and would like to become familiar with this concept.
Thanks
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Silly String
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Yes, it is a pokertracker stat. 57/11 means the opponent is:
57% V$IP (Voluntary put Money in pot)
11% PFR (Pre Flop Raise)
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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