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zook
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05-21-2007, 01:56 AM
Post subject: TPTK, drawy flop, facing minraise
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Villain is 32/17/2.5 over 120 hands. He's been aggressive at this table, and has gotten a couple of monsters paid. I haven't seen him minraise before. I've been playing pretty tight.
Play and plan?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $2/$4 - 3 players - Converter
Stack sizes:
CO: $1255.70
Hero: $400
BB: $562
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A  Q 
CO calls, Hero raises to $18, BB calls, CO calls.
Flop: Q J  7 ($54, 5 players)
Hero bets $44, BB folds, CO raises to $88, Hero...
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|~|ypermegachi
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very tough spot...has he been getting paid off with monsters as in unimproved monsters, or flopped straights/sets/flushes etc.?
i'm thinking call and see what falls on the turn since the flop is very coordinated and villain can be doing this wait many straight/flush draws. but since he's aggressive, we'll be facing a big bet on the turn.
i'm leaning towards fold...
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sauce123
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i probably call and c/r a blank turn all in
or just 3bet flop
but i def dont fold
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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meeloche
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I think I call and shove a blank turn.
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zook
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
has he been getting paid off with monsters as in unimproved monsters, or flopped straights/sets/flushes etc.?
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One flopped set AI on flop vs TPTK and one flopped two pair AI on flop vs. a flush draw.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
i probably call and c/r a blank turn all in
or just 3bet flop
but i def dont fold
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Yeah, I wasn't considering folding this 3-handed. Seems like I'm way ahead of bluffs and worse queens, way behind sets and QJ, and slightly ahead of flush draws. Pushing gets the most value when I'm slightly ahead and loses the most when I'm wa or wb. Calling and c/r'ing the turn AI sounds good, although I risk him checking behind with a flush draw.
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IowaSkinsFan
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yeah i really dont like a shove here, a T isn't that bad of a turn card, if a club hits though i'd reevaluate based on bet size.
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gabe
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whats wrong with pushing
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larsmars
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Originally Posted by gabe
whats wrong with pushing
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Yupp, this doesn't look like a pure bluff and aggro villain probably isn't open limping QJ/77 on the button anyway. Lots of turn cards you don't wanna see and you don't want him checking behind. I'm all in.
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|~|ypermegachi
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if you're putting him on a strong draw, going all in now is better than CRAI on the turn for reasons already stated.
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