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Old 05-22-2009, 09:31 PM     Post subject: TP2K facing river CR #1 (permalink)  
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Taggish opponent, playing a whole bunch of tables and makes smart ass comments in the chatbox about my play. Couple of orbits ago he check-called AJ on KQJ as pfc, check raised a 9 turn and bitched about how bad i am not folding KK there. I dunno if betting the river is cool in the first place, but he´s not folding AJ/AT/QJ I suppose.

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Stacks:
UTG ($127.60)
CO ($103.00)
Hero (BTN) ($141.05)
SB ($31.50)
BB ($21.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is BTN
UTG raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($20.50, 2 players)
UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($48.50, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $18, UTG raises to $68
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Old 05-22-2009, 11:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Haha was this me? I've been bitching people out a ton in chat lately because I've been so bitter about my recent crash and burn.

Anyway, I don't think I bet river vs an UTG range that just double barreled this board. Plus he doesn't give you credit as a folder. Fold now as played.


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Old 05-23-2009, 02:19 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I want to call and go lol missed draw. cause I think he'd do that with recent chat history etc.

I think I call and expect to see either a missed flush draw or 888.



 
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:51 AM #4 (permalink)  
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V is probably expecting you to check back most made hands. Also, I think most people who will berate you for not folding top set there would continue to make the same mistake and blame it on you when his bluffs fail miserably.
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with that history I could call him again because he's probably tilting and trying to make "plays" so he can then pity himself when people call him down

that said, his range is a lot stronger here because he was the one betting
he COULD have the nuts here
if you had bet all three streets and got c/r on the river he has a nut hand less often because a set or straight usually raise before the river to protect equity

with that consideration, your river bet looks really weak
it makes me want to raise too...
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 You're going to value bet most hands that you're going to call a river bet with, so a c/r with his nut hands is not a bad play there imo.

Unless I've seen him make river check-raises as a bluff before, I'd fold without too much pain.
A read on his bet sizing would be nice also, because he could make it $55 as a bluff and get pretty much the same results... against an unkown the $68 raise makes me think this is a value line even more.

I don't want to generalize too much - but if you go into HEM and filter for "called river c/r = true" - you're not going to see less than 2 pair all that often. It's almost never a bluff... people don't like to bluff with zero equity.
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