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minSim

02-01-2008, 08:23 PM Post subject: tough session again, but made some Sklansky

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As some of you read in my other thread I'm on a pretty big downswing. I got some very good responses tho, and diffinately have to work on my aggressivess.

I lost another BI today while making 2 sklansky, but w.e.
Here were some interesting hands:

Hand 1:
Villain was 21/9 over 100 hands, attempt to steal blinds 23%.
I had been 3-betting him a little light bit from the blinds, not overly.
The last one I remember he folded to my c-bet on a Q high flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($4.55)
UTG ($5.85)
Button ($25.05)
Hero ($43.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

.
1 fold, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($7.25)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($13.25)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero...

Hand 2
Villain was 37/17 over 35 hands. He had 3-bet me from the blinds maybe 3 times before.
I thought he was 3-betting me lightly so I didn’t want him to fold to my 4-bet, rather pick at least a c-bet and maybe more. I called flop because it was very dry and I thought I could get all-in on lots of turns against Q’s anyway and I hoped to get more value from 7x+ and air this way.

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UTG ($31.19)
MP ($66.83)
Hero ($24.90)
SB ($26.03)
BB ($24.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.25)

(2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($14.25)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero calls $24.90 (All-In)

Hand 3
Villain is unknown.

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MP ($21.87)
Hero ($25)
SB ($21.04)
BB ($26.96)
UTG ($32.76)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $20.94 (All-In), Hero calls $10.04.

Hand 4
Villain was 75/1/0.35 over 85 hands. Comments on all streets are welcome…and what’s his river range?

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SB ($42.51)
Hero ($27.93)
UTG ($10.43)
Button ($24.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.375, UTG folds, SB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.25)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($7.25)

(2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($13.25)

(2 players)
SB bets $12.5, Hero….

Hand 5
Villain is 80/56/1.80 44 hands

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SB ($46.10)
Hero ($32.59)
UTG ($14.74)
MP ($9.83)
Button ($5.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.625, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.60)

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.75, Hero calls $32.34 (All-In), UTG calls $14.74 (All-In).

Turn: ($40.58)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($40.58)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $55.43

Hand 6
And one for the entertainment, I had been battling with villain a few recent pots, double up through him as well.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($28.15)
Hero ($52.80)
SB ($10.26)
BB ($9.58)
UTG ($5.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, Q

.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) K

, 3

, Q

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $52.80 (All-In), MP calls $28.15 (All-In).

Turn: ($67.15) A

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($67.15) J

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $89.8

Villain had ATc

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will641

02-01-2008, 10:30 PM

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1) b/f turn and fold river as played.
2) i 4 bet pre, but its fine. you definitely need to raise flop.
3) fine
4) raise turn with intent of getting it in.
5) fine.
6) sucks.

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Andrew

02-01-2008, 11:18 PM

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All comments should be taken at face value and at your own risk:

Hand 1:
A raise and a reraised call. A on flop, I like your check. Either the A hits him and he is slow playing or it was a pp he called you with. I'm not too excited about your check/call, you don't know where you are and you're hoping for maybe a Q on river? Bet turn and fold to a reraise.

Hand 2:
3-bet. He has already said that he wants to play with you and you've got the best hand right now. Reraise on flop.

Hand 3:
Pretty much as played. My guess is he is slamming trips.

Hand 4:
I'll be reading other people's thoughts on this.

Hand 5:
I think as played.

Hand 6:
As played.

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02-01-2008, 11:46 PM

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1: fold
2: wtf are you doing
3: fine
4: flip a coin and raise turn imo prob.
5: fine
6: fine

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meeloche

02-02-2008, 12:34 AM

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1) Played fine now fold river.
2) My standard 3 bet was 4.5 at 25nl which i like better builds pot faster. Please raise this flop trying to get it in. Every time you slow play 1 pr hands you're asking to get drawn out on.
3) personal preference is fold pre but now you have a monster all in!!
4) Really gross but raise turn and go broke.
5) 80/50 + pair& spades = the nuts
6) lol runnerrunnersuckoutaments

thizzSantaCruz

02-02-2008, 03:12 AM

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1) bet turn, as played fold river
2) raise flop, as played check behind turn and call any bet, bet/fold if checked to.
3) good
4) bet turn harder, as played fold *edit didnt see lead, raise*
5) good becasue hes short, if hes a full buy in im not sure i like c/r this flop
6) nice *edit didnt see you got sucked out on...shitty*

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minSim

02-02-2008, 09:44 AM

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Thanks for your comments.

Hand 2 and 4 seem to be the most interesting ones.

Hand 2 I thought his 3-bet range was wide, I had no information about his 4-bet calling/shoving range so I assumed it was standard tight. IMO (correct me if I'm wrong) it can't be very bad to call the 3-bet IP with AA and go all in on lots of flops.

But yeah, at least go all-in on it then!
My reasoning at the time was a flop shove would have folded anything but KK, AQ, KQ. Turn pairing the Q made a Q in villains range less likely, and also in my range. I shoved because I expected to get called lighter, at least by JJ+, maybe more. I also thought I would be well ahead of that range, but as I Pokerstoved it I see I can't be that sure:

Quote:

Board: 7c 2s Qh Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.727% 45.80% 01.92% 524 22.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 52.273% 50.35% 01.92% 576 22.00 { JJ+, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

Quote:

Board: 7c 2s Qh Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.799% 61.48% 01.32% 1028 22.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 37.201% 35.89% 01.32% 600 22.00 { 99+, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

Hand 4 I don't have a really good idea of villains range at the turn. Villain is obviously bad, but very passive as well. If somebody can put a possible range together for me that would be great; or some probabilty of TP/2pairs/straights/draws.

meeloche

02-03-2008, 12:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by minSim

Hand 2 I thought his 3-bet range was wide, I had no information about his 4-bet calling/shoving range so I assumed it was standard tight. IMO (correct me if I'm wrong) it can't be very bad to call the 3-bet IP with AA and go all in on lots of flops.

But yeah, at least go all-in on it then!
My reasoning at the time was a flop shove would have folded anything but KK, AQ, KQ. Turn pairing the Q made a Q in villains range less likely, and also in my range. I shoved because I expected to get called lighter, at least by JJ+, maybe more. I also thought I would be well ahead of that range, but as I Pokerstoved it I see I can't be that sure:

At 25nl if villain is 3 betting its pretty much a given that he is willing to stack off preflop in my experience. Calling in position is not bad but in doing so you must get it in on the flop but i think you get that.

minSim

02-03-2008, 10:16 AM

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Thanks again, these were the results:

Hand 1: I folded river
Hand 2: Vilain called with JJ, rivered a J.
Hand 3: I didn't hit, villain had 99
Hand 4: I folded river
Hand 5: Villain had flopped the flush

minSim

02-04-2008, 08:15 PM

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Well thank you again...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($19.14)
CO ($29.10)
Hero ($22.85)
SB ($25)
BB ($3.84)
UTG ($30.36)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8.75, SB calls $24.90 (All-In), Hero calls $22.85 (All-In).

Flop: ($57.05) 3

, 5

, 4

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($57.05) K

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($57.05) T

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $60.25

Results in white below:
SB has Qd Qs (one pair, queens).
Hero has As Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $60.12.

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