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JL
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04-10-2009, 03:53 AM
Post subject: Are Tagg regulars ever bluffing here?
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Villain seems like a Tagg regular.
I don't have any other reads than that.
In general, when a Tagg takes a bet flop, check turn, bet river line, they are rarely bluffing, right?
In this situation, he takes this line and pots the river, so I was quite sure that I was beat. However, I don't think I can fold this.
Thoughts on situations like this?
Is AJ a fold here?
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($361.90)
CO ($849.45)
BTN ($815.90)
SB ($400.00)
Hero (BB) ($400.00)
Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is BB  
3 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8
Flop:    ($24, 2 players)
SB bets $16, Hero calls $16
Turn:  ($56, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River:  ($56, 2 players)
SB bets $55, Hero calls $55
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meeloche
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I guess would call here because of our hand strength relative to what range he's betting with. I don't think he's bluffing very often but without any mention of his abilities I assume he can have like A10/AJ here. He can also have some small diamonds as well probably. I'm really tempted to fold though because of his sizing.
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will641
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4-of-a-Kind
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i would call. i mean, just cause he's not pure bluffing very often doesnt mean we arent ahead of his value-betting range right? i often see tags take this line with Ax.
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bjsaust
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I'd expect a tag to value bet TPGK less tbh. I also dont expect them to bluff because I dont expect you to fold much of your range.
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AFchung
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i'd look him up here. that turn check makes no sense to me whatsoever
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kmind
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This is really weird with his turn check. I think we should call as he can have like Ax(unlikely imo)/KQ and then something like JT that we lose to.
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Silly String
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In a word, yes. Especially BVB. Even more so from a 22/17 than a 17/15.
The line sure seems like a whiffed turn CR & trying to make up value on the river or JT. I don't mind a fold here without better reads though b/c the bet sizing doesn't jive w/ Ace rag. I'm much more likely to call this BvB than otherwise. A SB steal % would be very helpful.
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bode
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like meeloche said, i would call because of our hand strength is too strong to fold after the river. however this is usually a value line and i wouldn't be calling here with Ax. this hand being bvb makes me want to call this more also.
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mcatdog
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vs most tagfish I fold given betsize. Also LOL at this:
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I was quite sure that I was beat. However, I don't think I can fold this.
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Edit: If he opens dumb hands like Q3/Q4 then it's a call.
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JL
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Full House
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
vs most tagfish I fold given betsize. Also LOL at this:
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I was quite sure that I was beat. However, I don't think I can fold this.
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LOL...well you know another way of saying crying call I guess. 
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