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quinlan20
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02-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Post subject: Stacked on a Bluff
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hull, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
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CO was a decent player. He seemed aggressive in late position, so I decided to reraise preflop.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.25
UTG+1: $28.20
CO: $29.30
Hero: $24.05
SB: $26
BB: $25
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Tc Ad
2 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, CO calls.
Flop: Qs Kh 8s ($5.35, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls.
Turn: 9h ($13.35, 2 players)
CO bets $4, Hero raises all-in $17.55, CO calls.
River: 4c ($48.45, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $48.45)
Results:
Final pot: $48.45
CO showed As 9s
Hero showed Tc Ad
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quinlan20
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Push the turn? Yes? No?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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reraise more pre if you're going to and i'd give up after the flop. I'd leave out the result.
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bearcats05
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by quinlan20
Push the turn? Yes? No?
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no.
and when he donk bets the river just fold... they usually have something big when they do that.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Most important advice on this play: DO NOT BLUFF AT 25NL
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Most important advice on this play: DO NOT BLUFF AT 25NL
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I know I've been out for a while, but I'm still going to call this out as stupid advice.
Very few games are so call-crazy that you can't make more money with well placed bluffs. Few of those games are online and never last long nor have much to do with stakes.
Even if you called every bet I make, I'm still going to bluff you on the cheap to make you feel good about it and validate that your behavior *might* win you money this time.
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Galapogos
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Most important advice on this play: DO NOT BLUFF AT 25NL
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I know I've been out for a while, but I'm still going to call this out as stupid advice.
Very few games are so call-crazy that you can't make more money with well placed bluffs. Few of those games are online and never last long nor have much to do with stakes. |
When things get all settled in favor of online gambling south of the border, be sure to stop by Pokerroom sometime to see what I'm talking about. 100NL SH is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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bearcats05
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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i agree with fnord even when there are a lot of players who will call down with lots of hands there are still spots where you can blufff especially against tight passive nits.
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quinlan20
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hull, United Kingdom
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I'm pretty sure Galapogos didn't mean what he said literally. He exaggerated the point to emphasis it's importance (or at least that's how I interpreted it.) And I think it's good advice - I'm definately bluffing much more than I should.
Thanks ppl for your comments.
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Tilting Donkey
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biondino
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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The definitive answer should be something like don't bluff at $25NL when the villain shows strength at any point including donk bets. Or, in short, don't bluff if it involves a re-raise.
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quinlan20
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hull, United Kingdom
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Yes, indeed! Where's Putney? London?
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Tilting Donkey
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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Yup, SW London. Hi fellow Britisher! Have you heard of a Boddingtons stout, btw? They're talking about it on another thread and I wonder if it's an export only thing or whether it just doesn't come south.
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Toe
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 102
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boddys is (or rather was not sure if it is now) made in Manchester and is served is lots of pubs around that area.
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quinlan20
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hull, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
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Yeah, I don't think we get it in Yorkshire. I didn't notice it anywhere in Newcastle when I lived up there last year either.
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Tilting Donkey
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: back with a vengeance
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I don't know if I like how any street is played here, honestly. River is good though, although you have to work on rivering your gutters.
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yorib
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oak Park, IL
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I think preflop is fine. You could have rreraised to $3, but that wouldn't have made a big difference. Since you're repping such a narrow range you have to bet a flop like that. Since you obviously would with AK/AA and that's the hand your selling preflop.
Fold the turn. It looks like he hit his oesd. He'll call with a pair + flush.
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