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meeloche

02-06-2008, 12:39 AM Post subject: stack alligning question

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In general If villain leaves room in his stack to fold he is less likely to be bluffing than if villain leaves no room to fold?

Examples: 100bb stacks, for simplicity this is 2 handed.

A) Hero raises 4bb Villain raises to 13bb, Hero calls

Flop (26bb) XXX
Villain bets 15bb, Hero Calls.

Turn (56bb) X
Villain bets 45bb (27bb left)

B) Hero raises 4bb Villain raises to 13bb, Hero calls

Flop (26bb) XXX
Villain bets 15bb, Hero Calls.

Turn (56bb) X
Villain bets 28bb (44bb left)

In General Villain in Example A is more likely to be bluffing?

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Pelion

02-06-2008, 12:47 AM

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I think its more villain/ board dependent than anything else. I really dont think there is an "in general" here.

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02-06-2008, 03:47 AM

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If villian is in position post flop then yes I would think he is more likely to have a stronger hand in example B than A on an average board.
(you have checked turn showing possible weakness so a big bet is too likely to get you to fold whereas a smaller bet may keep you in and give you the option of check raising - so if he bets smaller in general I think he's likely to be stronger.)

If villian is oop post flop then I think he is more likely to have a stronger hand in example A than B
(the only info he has is that you called the flop so he less likely to think you are weak enough for an oversized bet to work as a bluff and it is more a sign of him really committing himself to the pot & any river)

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EzDuzIt

02-06-2008, 05:28 AM

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i think this is too general... depends on villain, the board, and ranges.

IowaSkinsFan

02-06-2008, 06:58 AM

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Dude lets just say disregarding all other factors what do you think.

I'd say A, in general i notice a high frequency of the time when people don't leave any room for you to bluff or for another street bet they are bluffing.

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meeloche

02-08-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

This is what I thought, I just wanted to double check my thinking.

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