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Irisheyes
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06-19-2008, 11:09 AM
Post subject: Squeeze to marginal hand quick check
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Opener is a bad TAGLAG who never adjusts, cold caller was 41/8/2.8 fishy fish.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($99.36)
UTG+1 ($1623.90)
CO ($589.43)
BTN ($889.60)
SB ($494.25)
Hero ($622.05)
Pre-flop: ($7.50, 6 players) Hero is BB  
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $17.50, CO calls $17.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $75, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $57.50
Flop:    ($175, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $127.50, Hero calls $127.50
Turn:  ($430, 2 players)
Hero checks (planning to fold to shove), CO checks
River:  ($430, 2 players)
Hero checks (planning to fold to shove),
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Da GOAT
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we have to c/b this flop imo
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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zook
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Yes, autobet the flop. As played, turn and river are good.
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Irisheyes
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Why bet the flop? It just puts me in a sick spot when I get shoved on and he folds all hands I beat.
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zook
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Why bet the flop? It just puts me in a sick spot when I get shoved on and he folds all hands I beat.
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b/c he's folding JJ, better tens and there are a bajillion turn cards you don't want to see. I think bet/fold > check/fold > check/call.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by zook
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Why bet the flop? It just puts me in a sick spot when I get shoved on and he folds all hands I beat.
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b/c he's folding JJ, better tens and there are a bajillion turn cards you don't want to see. I think bet/fold > check/fold > check/call. |
If villain puts hero on a squeeze, I don't think he's folding JJ+ to a bet on this flop. He's definitely peeling here, and then hero is in a guessing game OOP as to whether he should shove or giveup and c/f.
I see why Irish c/c this flop, I'd probably usually just b/f though. Not sure what I"d do on turn if he flatted me... guess it depends on timing and stuff.
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Galapogos
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I honestly like Irish's line and thinking.
Edit: except for preflop of course
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Irisheyes
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pf isn't that bad is it?
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Da GOAT
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preflop isnt that bad anyway imo
when i bet flop im expecting KK-JJ to fold, maybe this is too generous. i like a bet/fold flop.
If he does just peel the flop when we bet is a second barrel any good. probably not since he doesnt have much drawing hands in his range so a call = AK-AJ, KK,QQ. imo JJ folds.
i guess it REALLY depends on opp but i think bet/fold is really good vs okay opponent. btw even if he thinks we squeeze some doesnt mean he will call alot, we could do this we A4 just as often, right?
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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sauce123
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pf is bad
flop we need more info, but with absolutely none i would b/f cause thats the nut line with no info
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Numbr2intheWorld
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you have to have a good reason to squeeze with this hand.
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Irisheyes
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Well the pfr raises like 20% of his hands there and then folds 80% of them to a 3bet. But I guess you think the fish being there negates that too much?
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dsaxton
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If you're going to check the flop, I think raising all-in is better than calling once the cutoff bets.
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