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BigPapi
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06-04-2008, 07:59 AM
Post subject: Squeeze 89s 50NL
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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CO is something like 20/15 with a high 3bet% (16). His af is 1.8 and that is over about 180 hands. I never saw him before but he was playing at 3 tables of mine yesterday and seemed to know what he was doing. BTN wasnt any good.
I was playing 25-18-7(3bet) over the session (normally it's 22-17) and villain had seen me squeeze with 76s and win the pot with a flush against ak. He also saw me 3bet AA and win against AK in a preflop allin on another table.
So the actual hand (can post HH later when at home) CO raises to 1.75, BTN calls. I'm in SB with 89 of clubs. Under the motto "ball till you fall" I raise to 6.25 and well at this point I guess I fall... both call and flop comes 249 with 2 hearts. I bet 11 into 19 (too low? is betting the best option? i hate c/c here and c/f is weak). The CO waits a second and min raises to 22. BTN folds... I ???
(Against a typical 50NL player this would be easy imo, but I had a feeling the way this guy was playing he normally plays at a higher limit. Çan I put him on TT/JJ/QQ simply here?)
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BigPapi
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Cant seem to convert UB hands?
Seat 1: Shipping_Dept ( $49.25 )
Seat 2: RonniesMonies ( $48.70 )
Seat 4: x( $21.25 )
Seat 5: VeriTaSAA ( $58.00 )
Seat 6: x ( $11.65 )
RonniesMonies posts the small blind [$0.25].
Tribezzle posts the big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RonniesMonies [ 8d 9d ]
VeriTaSAA raises [$1.75]
Shipping_Dept calls [$1.75]
RonniesMonies raises [$6.00]
VeriTaSAA calls [$4.50]
Shipping_Dept calls [$4.50]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 2h, 9h ]
RonniesMonies bets [$11.00]
VeriTaSAA raises [$22.00]
Shipping_Dept folds
RonniesMonies ??
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JL
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Full House
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I don't see why you want to squeeze with suited connectors. These hands are perfect for seeing cheap multi-way pots, flopping big, and getting paid.
However, when you do decide to squeeze, you should make it at least 4x preflop ($7) or more because you are OOP.
c/f flop for sure.
As played, fold to the minraise because you have at most 5 outs.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Why are you squeezing? Don't bet the flop, anything he called with is calling this flop, and it all beats you. Unless he has like AQ which you beat anyway. c/f flop for sure.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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BigPapi
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I need some more hands to 3bet/squeeze with. so you'd prefer raggy hands to make up for the % because I want them to fold anyway? I'm not always squeezing sc's, but I thought it would be better to have a decent hand then nothing at all, though I can see the advantages of squeezing rags. Should make it 4x though yes.
I folded this hand. Isn't c/f too weak? Should I check aces/kings here? Thought he might be playing back, but if he is, he picked a good spot I guess.
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holdin2
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Originally Posted by BigPapi
Cant seem to convert UB hands? |
There is a one line of text that needs to be edited in the HH for the converter to output it properly. If you pasted the beginning section of the HH it might jog my memory, but it's been awhile since I played UB so I don't remember. I just know it's it the section preceeding what you posted.
It used to work fine, but UB changed their HH a little.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by BigPapi
I need some more hands to 3bet/squeeze with.
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No you don't. Don't make 50NL harder than it has to be.
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Originally Posted by BigPapi
I folded this hand. Isn't c/f too weak? Should I check aces/kings here? Thought he might be playing back, but if he is, he picked a good spot I guess.
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Nah, it's not too weak, the donk behind him will keep him in line. Definitely don't check AA-KK here though, you're crushing his range with those.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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dalecooper
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Opening up your 3-betting range a bit isn't a bad idea especially against late position raisers who steal blinds a lot and fold to 3-bets a lot (which you'll find is a lot of people at your stakes). Squeezing more is not necessarily a good thing though; I think the play's a little overrated anyway, probably because of its catchy name and relative newness to most players. I do it every once in a while and play the same level as you. However, someone on these boards said this the other day, and it has stuck with me: if you're going to squeeze, do it more with hands that have low implied odds. Two high cards and some medium pairs 99-JJ seem like the recipe for me. With small pairs and suited connectors you should be calling some, folding some, and squeezing rarely. (Calls and folds just depend on the raise size, number of other callers, aggression of villain, and your relative position.)
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Numbr2intheWorld
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I think you played it ok, make it 7 or 7.5 preflop. You're basically commited on this flop and it's too good not to bet. If someone shoves you have too good odds to get away.
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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BALL TIL YOU FALL
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BigPapi
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Flush
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thanks for the info guys, some usefull info I can use
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deleo
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you are beat, fold
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