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Old 09-01-2006, 08:11 PM     Post subject: Somewhat weird AA hand #1 (permalink)  
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 As usual, comments on all streets appreciated. I will comment later.

** Game ID 916359752 starting - 2006-08-30 02:56:49
** Azure [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- CardarTom sitting in seat 1 with $566.30
- skhais33 sitting in seat 2 with $341.25
-VILLAIN sitting in seat 3 with $199.00
- HERO sitting in seat 4 with $213.00
- KatieHolms sitting in seat 5 with $135.25 [Dealer]
- melnic sitting in seat 6 with $197.00

melnic posted the small blind - $1.00
CardarTom posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to HERO : Ace of Clubs, Ace of Diamonds
skhais33 folded
VILLAIN raised - $6.00
HERO raised - $21.00
KatieHolms folded
melnic folded
CardarTom folded
VILLAIN called - $21.00

** Dealing the flop: 4 of Diamonds, 6 of Spades, 3 of Hearts
POT : 43$

VILLAIN bet - $25.00
HERO called - $25.00

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Hearts
POT : 93$

VILLAIN checked
HERO checked

** Dealing the river: 6 of Diamonds
POT : 93$

VILLAIN checked
HERO bet - $45.00
VILLAIN raised - $90.00
HERO called - $90.00
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:16 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i usually raise the flop here. how come you called?

did he min c/r the river? im not folding to that.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I raise the flop here and stick the rest in on this turn expecting villian to call with a weaker overpair.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:05 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I raise the flop here and stick the rest in on this turn expecting villian to call with a weaker overpair.
vnh Robert

my spidey-sense was tingling and for some reason I was freaking out about a donk-lead set from villain. This of course becomes very unlikely when board makes 2 of set possibilities quads... yet for some reason I still wanted to keep the breaks on ; I honestly felt there was a very good chance villain had quads, hence the trappiness - river min raise.

I have been pretty good at sniffing out sets over the past little while so I just trust it when I feel it happening.

What can be said about his line? I'm not sure I understand it all that much.
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Old 09-02-2006, 06:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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did he have quads?
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Old 09-02-2006, 08:41 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 lol thx for your help saxton
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:52 AM #8 (permalink)  
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He will have a set some of the time - but most of the time this will be an overpair (he raised preflop, remember?). Stack him by raising flop and pushing turn
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Old 09-02-2006, 03:25 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 make the flop $75 to go, and stick the rest in on the turn.
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Old 09-02-2006, 11:50 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 is there some reason why noone seems to think the donk lead smells of a set?

Maybe I just project my own play onto unknowns but his line is exactly how I would play a set, lookking to check raise ai on turn.

also, does the raggy flop make a set unlikey for villain?

why?

I suppose folding an overpair or playing it weak is very read-dependant. This was against unknown so I prob just shoulda gotten the money in.

That being said, this happened on P rima. It's very unusual to see ppl donking into preflop raisers. like it happens once in 20 times with a hand that will not simply fold to aggression... (ok maybe i m exaggerating a bit, but...)
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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