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will641
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10-27-2007, 01:15 AM
Post subject: some theory questions
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if we are alone in a pot with a donk calling station, and we flop TP, do we go for 3 streets of value every time here? I find what I do a lot is go bet check bet, but should I be betting the turn every time assuming it doesnt bring a terrible care (i.e. I have A 10, flop is 8 9 10, turn is a J)?
also on a side note a couple preflop questions. I am sorry for the vagueness, but if I am dealt A J or A 10 suited, can I call 4x raises from the SB against either a tag or lag? from the CO/button or UTG?
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zook
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10-27-2007, 01:45 AM
Post subject: Re: some theory questions
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Originally Posted by will641
if we are alone in a pot with a donk calling station, and we flop TP, do we go for 3 streets of value every time here?
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TPGK, yeah probably. But know thy donk. Some will never give more than two streets of value without TPGK themselves.
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Originally Posted by will641
also on a side note a couple preflop questions. I am sorry for the vagueness, but if I am dealt A J or A 10 suited, can I call 4x raises from the SB against either a tag or lag? from the CO/button or UTG?
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From oop it's better to 3bet or fold these imo, but as always it depends on the opp. In position calling or 3betting are both ok.
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i like 3 streets, but it depends on the board. On paired ones, more caution is required to ensure he doesnt have the made set. It isnt likely he does, but someone who traps will just call till the river and then raise. Same with flush/straight draws, or when only one card is needed for that flush/straight and you lack that card. Its all dependent on the flop and what you think he has. In your 8-J example, id probably bet the turn just to see if he has it or if he thinks i might.
Second part, raise preflop, but dont call his raise unless you know a little more about his range. tight players, get out, loose you can get away with calling and having position.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Usually against a donk calling station you can get 3 streets of value with TP.
But this question is general, just think for yourself. When you flop tp against someone, ask yourself "will he call me down on 3 streets with many worse hands?" "will he slowplay big hands?" etc. And just make your decision off of your best read.
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bet for value every street just fold to any raise
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i visited this thread cause i wanted to see how gabe could answer a theory post in less than ten words
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