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griffey24

08-26-2010, 11:17 AM Post subject: Some river spots

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Hand 1
-villain in this hand is stars reg bruut
-I have been owning him pretty hard this session. Mostly just 3betting his button opens non-stop, and I've 5bet twice over his 4bets and he's folded both
-I 3bet him one other time and I c/f flop when he called
-I feel as though a lot of his range that gets to the river could be mid-pair hands and pockets and a smaller amount of the time KT or KJ. Is there any value here given the frequency I'm ahead?

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($616.50)
BTN ($609)
Hero (SB) ($600)
BB ($1,001)

Pre-Flop: ($9, 4 players) Hero is SB

1 fold, BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $50, 1 fold, BTN calls $35

Flop:

($106, 2 players)
Hero bets $70, BTN calls $70

Turn:

($246, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River:

($246, 2 players)
Hero??

Hand 2
-villain and I have been battling quite a bit. He's been 3betting me a ton vs my button opens. I started folding most and last time I 4bet him and he folded
-this is the next 4bet, I made it small to induce some spew over
-I don't know whats going on, but this seems like a dumb spot to bluff?

$2/$4 Ante $0.80 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($569.25)
UTG+1 ($778.85)
CO ($667.05)
Hero (BTN) ($471.60)
SB ($2,546.20)
BB ($1,036.40)

Pre-Flop: ($10.80, 6 players) Hero is BTN

3 folds, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, BB raises to $40, Hero raises to $85, BB calls $45

Flop:

($176.80, 2 players)
BB bets $51, Hero calls $51

Turn:

($278.80, 2 players)
BB bets $75, Hero calls $75

River:

($428.80, 2 players)
BB bets $266, Hero ??

Hand 3
-this hand is vs the infamous nano
-In the past I've 3bet his button opens a ton, because he also folds a ton. This session I haven't been doing too much, especially since we're 200bb deep and I'm pretty sure he'll own my life
-This is the first 3bet he's called of mine this session, no real dynamic
-about $530 left behind on river and pot is $560, is this an easy shove?

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($454.65)
CO ($159.90)
BTN ($1,705.40)
Hero (SB) ($808)
BB ($439.90)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB

2 folds, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $44, 1 fold, BTN calls $32

Flop:

($92, 2 players)
Hero bets $65, BTN calls $65

Turn:

($222, 2 players)
Hero bets $170, BTN calls $170

River:

($562, 2 players)
Hero ??

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Mr. Diamond

08-26-2010, 12:05 PM

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I have a question about hand 3

- this river is good bluffing card for us, so if we check it seems, that flop and turn bets were for value and our hand seems like one pair TT+
- so if we check he can play perfect vs us and bet AA+ and check everything else

- so because of it, we should always bet TT+ here?? - is this stupid??

griffey24

08-26-2010, 12:42 PM

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Mr.Diamond - in general I agree. Definitely 100bbs or even up to 130bbs'ish I'd probably shove this card. Mostly because I think he's likely to raise Axcc earlier and get it in, and he's more likely to pay off worse, and it's a situation that occurs reasonably often.

200bb deep:
a) I'm not sure if he will raise Axcc earlier, so he gets to the river with all those combos
b) Its a good bluffing card, but it also hits a lot of my range he probably thinks he beats before hand. So he might not even call this too light.
c) I'm not sure its a spot I necessarily need to be THAT well balanced in (ie: I don't play deep very often), and I bluff enough in other spots that ppl will give me credit for having bluffs here on a river shove anyhow.

Quote:

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I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

Mr. Diamond

08-26-2010, 01:47 PM

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thank you

- now I see that this river is super weird
- I would probably just bet, because other options sux, but correct answer can give only PokerStove

edit: what do you think about betting something like 370?? if you think he will not call light so much, you will safe money, when you are behind and you don't have to be good as much as if you are shoving

pocketfours

08-27-2010, 07:38 AM

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1. I would bet the turn. River as played I guess b/f small.

2. I prefer raising the flop. River is weird. Very hard to put him on a hand that beats you. I hope you called so we get to hear what he had

3. I'd probably bet small my whole range on that river.

sauce123

08-27-2010, 05:54 PM

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1, bet turn

2, meh raise flop, and uh, fold river i spose gross spot

3, ship

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vaks

09-06-2010, 02:46 PM

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hand 3 is interesting imo. He does have Ax in his range, but he has has a T, flush draws and a pair like JJ+ a lot of the time and since villain knows this Ace is a great card for you to bluff at wouldn't that mean he will probably be calling you pretty light?

Silly String

09-09-2010, 01:40 PM

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On hand #2, I can't see how this is anything but a call. The

are on board in a 4bet pot making his flush that much less likely, I sure can't put him on any T's here when he donk leads 3 streets. I think he has AA/KK/AK or air. He could be value betting AK since you played it trappy and there are a lot more combos of AK than AA/KK.

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