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11-07-2007, 02:55 AM Post subject: some hands from today (50nl)

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********hand 1********

is a cbet good here? and how often should i be c-betting 3bet pots on A high flops?

PokerStars Game #13083762833: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/06 - 19:16:07 (ET)
Table 'Ilsebill' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Terrano*5 ($51.10 in chips)
Seat 2: glomarh ($50.25 in chips)
Seat 3: mempamal ($66.65 in chips)
Seat 4: iopecca ($54.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Bode-ist ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 6: slosi ($105.60 in chips)
Bode-ist: posts small blind $0.25
slosi: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bode-ist [Qc Qh]
Terrano*5: folds
glomarh: folds
mempamal: folds
iopecca: raises $1 to $1.50
Bode-ist: raises $4 to $5.50
slosi: folds
iopecca: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4c 8s]
Bode-ist: bets $7.50

********hand 2********

villain had 3bet 3 out of 13 hands at the table. is a 4bet better here?

PokerStars Game #13084044292: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/06 - 19:31:09 (ET)
Table 'Suevia' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Bode-ist ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: golfsenior ($54.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Nayyeeekak ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 4: slickpair22 ($46.90 in chips)
Seat 5: habibovich ($33.45 in chips)
Seat 6: crosse91 ($50 in chips)
habibovich: posts small blind $0.25
crosse91: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bode-ist [Ac Kh]
Bode-ist: raises $1.50 to $2
golfsenior: folds
Nayyeeekak: raises $3.50 to $5.50
slickpair22: folds
habibovich: folds
crosse91: folds
Bode-ist: calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [3d Qd 5s]
Bode-ist: checks
Nayyeeekak: bets $4.50
Bode-ist: raises $10 to $14.50

********hand 3********

2nd hand at this table. No stats/reads on villain. Didnt feel like blowing everyone out of the pot with a 4bet, and since i didnt have history with anyone at the table i thought they might just think im a donk.

PokerStars Game #13086264568: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/06 - 21:28:06 (ET)
Table 'Auravictrix' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: HesBluffingx ($56.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Bode-ist ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 3: kaaaRa ($68.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Terminate987 ($32.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Amzzy ($70.50 in chips)
Seat 6: yellowrim ($6.75 in chips)
Bode-ist: posts small blind $0.25
kaaaRa: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bode-ist [Ah Ac]
Terminate987: calls $0.50
Amzzy: folds
yellowrim: raises $1.50 to $2
HesBluffingx: raises $4 to $6
Bode-ist: calls $5.75
kaaaRa: folds
Terminate987: folds
yellowrim: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh 2s]
Bode-ist: checks
yellowrim: checks
HesBluffingx: checks
*** TURN *** [Ks Jh 2s] [5h]
Bode-ist: bets $11.50
yellowrim: calls $0.75 and is all-in
HesBluffingx: raises $38.75 to $50.25 and is all-in

********hand 4********

only 5 hands with villain, no reads/stats

PokerStars Game #13086558896: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/06 - 21:43:18 (ET)
Table 'Elyna' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ursus123 ($53.80 in chips)
Seat 2: ekud ($30 in chips)
Seat 3: Bode-ist ($64.75 in chips)
Seat 4: medman92 ($13.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Goal4Ziggy ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: therat79 ($61.10 in chips)
therat79: posts small blind $0.25
ursus123: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bode-ist [Jd Js]
ekud: calls $0.50
Bode-ist: raises $2 to $2.50
medman92: folds
Goal4Ziggy: folds
therat79: calls $2.25
ursus123: calls $2
ekud: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [4c 2d 8s]
therat79: bets $2.50
ursus123: calls $2.50
ekud: folds
Bode-ist: raises $8 to $10.50
therat79: raises $48.10 to $58.60 and is all-in

********hand 5********

ternimate is 51/10 over 125 hands and obv. doesnt have a K with that donk bet. Shorty seams weak w/ the cold call. you like?

PokerStars Game #13086978967: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/06 - 22:05:02 (ET)
Table 'Auravictrix' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: HesBluffingx ($56 in chips)
Seat 2: Bode-ist ($91.10 in chips)
Seat 3: sdalley ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Terminate987 ($42.85 in chips)
Seat 5: Amzzy ($150.95 in chips)
Seat 6: RDom ($11.45 in chips)
Bode-ist: posts small blind $0.25
sdalley: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bode-ist [9h 9c]
Terminate987: raises $1.50 to $2
Amzzy: calls $2
RDom: calls $2
HesBluffingx: calls $2
Bode-ist: calls $1.75
sdalley: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3c 2s]
Bode-ist: checks
Terminate987: bets $2
Amzzy: folds
RDom: calls $2
HesBluffingx: folds
Bode-ist: raises $7.45 to $9.45 (to put shorty AI)

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bode

11-07-2007, 03:26 PM

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omg someone please look at these hands and help me stop playing like a microdonk douchebag!

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Da GOAT

11-07-2007, 03:26 PM

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1-ok
2-4bet his 60BB stack. id rather float flop than raise but folding is better OOP
3-dont fold

4-fold
5-meh i fold, 51/10 prob wont fold so meh im not risking it all to mearly bust a ultra shorty

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Vi-Zer0Skill

11-08-2007, 01:27 AM

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1). betting the flop is worse than checking, unless you think he will call bets on mulitple streets with 10-10/J-J (probably not in a typical 50-100NL game).
2). i'd 4bet preflop too. It seems very possible he could get all in with A-Q or worse high cards.
3). i have started to wonder whether coldcalling 3bets preflop is good poker when effective stacks are around 100BB and your opponent isn't a aggro retard postflop (disregarding the already pot committed mini shortstack). I can't think of hands that i would coldcall a 3bet with besides J-J+/A-K. I'd 4bet with the same range, and maybe even 10-10 sometimes. So i think 4betting would be better.

As played you definitely should bet the flop. Even if you check the flop, villain probably isn't putting more money in with hands you are beating unless he improves. Definitely call the turn push.

4). I would fold to the push without reads.

5). I'd rather call and see whether the turn is a bad card and how villain reacts. Getting 3bet on the flop by the non shortstack sucks.

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11-08-2007, 02:51 AM

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Hand 1) I like the c-bet here. Fold to a re-raise, shut down if called.

Hand 2) Villain is 1/3 pot committed with their flop bet, I either float or fold, you'll get the opportunity to bust them soon enough.

Hand 3) I don't call. If you 4-bet and they all fold you still get 16bb in profit, which is fine. If it ends up all-in pre, that's nice too. As played, bet the flop!

Hand 4) Fold, you don't want to pay off the set.

Had 5) I like the bet, but only if you already know your plan of attack if terminate doesn't fold. Without a plan I would call

minSim

11-08-2007, 07:40 AM

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Hand 1: I usually c/c 2 streets, if villain fires river too I fold.

Hand 2: I definately 4-bet this. As played, if he isn't a complete donk I wouldn't mind a c/rai.

Hand 3: I don't really mind your play, but my feeling says 4-betting preflop is likely better. I can't really back it up though, I hope someone else can.

Hand 4: I definately fold to the push, because the board is very dry. I would like to here thoughts about calling the flop bet. That's probably what I would have done, but I'm not sure it's the best play.

Hand 5: Preflop I likely play it the same as you did, but I wonder if raising it up wouldn't be better.
I would probably call the flop. What's your plan when you get 3-bet?

Da GOAT

11-08-2007, 09:43 AM

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actually i should rethink the QQ hand. I think its debateable but i now lean towards checking as Vi says.

If we had 99 for example im betting to fold out TT-KK on Axx flop. However if we hold KK we should check bcoz we want 99-QQ to stay in the hand. We should beleive that to push out an Ace is very costly and unwise for the moment. So whats the plan with QQ, I vote for checking bcoz the only hand we can get to fold while behind is KK but we lose some value from 99-JJ (tho we are hardly getting a stack from them). c/c flop, c/f turn right vs basic opp's. When we do this our hand is very face IMO.

Recently (well weeks ago) i had a hand with ravaguer on prima, i knew he had KK but couldnt finnd it in me to bluff him out on a Axx board when he took this line.

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bode

11-08-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Da GOAT

very good points. While our hand is face up against (semi) thinking villains when we take this line, there are enought nonthinking villains at this level to where it doesnt hurt in the long run.

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