Originally Posted by chardrian

I understand we're barely ahead if we just shove and play for stacks on the flop (which is why my reraise was purty dumb). But we didn't shove.

Just giving up there, even oop seems dumb. I'd much rather call and either c/r or lead a blank turn then just give up w/ 2 pair. From the hands I've played so far (which granted is prolly still less than 3k hands) you win or lose sessions because of a couple of hands. Just seems to me that I'd be missing value by check/folding hand 1.

Originally Posted by chardrian

It's a lot different than a 3 bet flop because we are oop.

My mind is truly boggled that people aren't raising hands worse than a made flush or a better 2pair/set here on this board in position. Raising here gives the position player the free card on the turn and often takes it down right there. I would think that there are a lot more hands that are raising here than made hands.

Originally Posted by chardrian

It's a lot different than a 3 bet flop because we are oop.

My mind is truly boggled that people aren't raising hands worse than a made flush or a better 2pair/set here on this board in position. Raising here gives the position player the free card on the turn and often takes it down right there. I would think that there are a lot more hands that are raising here than made hands.

Originally Posted by chardrian

It's a lot different than a 3 bet flop because we are oop.

My mind is truly boggled that people aren't raising hands worse than a made flush or a better 2pair/set here on this board in position. Raising here gives the position player the free card on the turn and often takes it down right there. I would think that there are a lot more hands that are raising here than made hands.