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Old 04-20-2006, 05:19 AM     Post subject: Some annoying hands #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #1. Didn't know what to do because of the double-suited board..

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $34.90
UTG+1: $43.45
CO: $9.50
Button: $163.41
SB: $14.10
Hero: $106.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB folds, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: 9 T 8 ($4.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $3, 2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: J ($10.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $16, Hero raises to $58, Button raises all-in $143.41, Hero calls all-in $45.9.
Uncalled bets: $39.51 returned to Button.

River: 2 ($218.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $218.3)


Results:
Final pot: $218.3
Button shows Kc Qs

Hand #2. Pf action indicated a PP, Villain's bets didn't feel like AA/AK.

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CO: $97.50
Button: $91.80
SB: $104.35
Hero: $197.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K K
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $4, CO raises to $9, SB calls, Hero raises to $24, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: 4 7 A ($74, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $10, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3 ($94, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls.

River: J ($134, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO is all-in $42.5, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $219
CO shows Js Jd

Hand #3. River call +EV?

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Stack sizes:
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Hero: $98.35
CO: $98.50
Button: $219.93
SB: $84.45
BB: $99.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6 3 5 ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls.

Turn: 9 ($23, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls.

River: J ($51, 2 players)
SB is all-in $59.95, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $170.9
SB shows 2h 5h
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:40 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, looks okay, although you could just push once he raises you on the turn.

Hand 2, I think is spew. You have to reraise more preflop, especially since SB cold called. Make it $35 to go. I just check/fold this flop. Heads up, I would bet and shut down if called, but 3-way I think there is very little chance you are good.

Hand 3, ugh. Really depends on reads. Without a read, I usually fold here.
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Old 04-20-2006, 08:28 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - After the J comes on the turn and I'm raised, even though it's a min raise, I have no desire to play a big pot anymore. Four-to-a-straight on the board is obvious and unless you opponent is a total moron he isn't going to raise you without at least a Q. The most likely scenario is a split pot, so I see no advantage in dumping so much money when you could be behind or your opponent also has a Q along with a flush draw and is free-rolling. After the turn raise, unless I have a good read, I try to get so showdown as cheap as possible.

Hand 2 - As was already said, after SB cold calls I would put in a larger raise. Even without a cold caller, if someone re-raises me PF and I have AA or KK when it comes back to me I pretty much always but in a raise that commits either my opponent or myself. Here I would raise to $35+ and push any flop without an A. As you played it though, you need to lead that flop. Don't be so quick to surrender control of a hand just because a scare card comes. With an A on the board you want to know where you stand immediately. If I'm called, I slow way down. If I'm raised, I dump it. You surrendered the lead in the hand and paid for it by not knowing where you stood and consequently were strung along with sucker bets.

Hand 3 - I think you played it well up until the river. That river bet is more often not a bluff than it is. It takes a lot of balls or stupidity to make that bet into someone that has been betting strong through out the hand without having something that can beat your KK. Do you think your opponent was calling those bets all along just so he could pair his J and push the river? Unless my opponent is a complete dumbass, tilting, or I have some kind of other read, I fold. Two pair, a set, a straight, a flush... it doesn't matter. They all beat you.
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Old 04-20-2006, 05:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 was a little unlucky... I would expect to split here, although QcXc or QsXs would be unfortunate. It would take some disipline and a good read to flat call that turn raise, and check/call river.

Hand 2. I think checking here is best, probably calling (see "gabe" KK thread(s) in SNG formum). However, his flop bet is too weak, you need to raise this. $10 into $72 on an A-high no draw board in a re-raised flop? This is either crapola, set, or AA. If he calls your flop raise, don't give him another dime. Since there are no draws, your raise only has to be enough to kill odds for ~5 outs. Although what hand has 5 outs against you? 78? 2-3 outs is more realistic.

Hand 3. Nice read.
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