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06-13-2009, 05:45 AM
Post subject: Some 50nl hands
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hand 1)
Villain is brand new to the table.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($15.75)
BB ($19)
Hero (UTG) ($80.25)
MP ($43.65)
CO ($52)
Button ($50.95)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8 , 9
Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($4.25) Q , 10 , 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, Button calls $3.25
Turn: ($10.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.25, Button calls $7.25
River: ($25.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14.50
Hand 2)
27/20/.7/15
He showed down A9o the last time he raised UTG.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($32.45)
BB ($43.70)
UTG ($50)
MP ($56.30)
CO ($36.65)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 10 , 10
UTG bets $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $5.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.75
Flop: ($11.25) 5 , J , 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.60, UTG calls $7.60
Turn: ($26.45) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($26.45) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $12.50, Hero?
Hand 3)
23/15/1.5/191
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($54.80)
Button ($41.65)
SB ($45.50)
BB ($57.10)
UTG ($50)
MP ($58.55)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 , A
2 folds, Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25
Flop: ($3.75) 7 , 4 , 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.10, BB calls $3.10
Turn: ($9.95) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.20, BB calls $7.20
River: ($24.35) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $17, Hero?
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Galapogos
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Hand #1: Don't like the 2nd barrel. To much wants to call on that board. The river card is pretty much the nut worst bluff card. But since all you're going to be doing is bluffing out missed FDs and KJ I like your sizing.
Hand #2: HATE 3 betting an UTG open with TT without a better read. Opening with A9o UTG and calling a 3bet with it OOP are two very different things. Don't like the cbet, your hand is too strong to turn into a bluff. His low aggression factor means you're beat when he bets the river. Especially that size, smells like value town.
Hand #3: The only thing you bet is FDs. That and the fact that his stats indicate he's unlikely to turn one into a bluff on the river means I give it to him.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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hand 1 I like to give up on the flop, he's not folding almost anything in his range
I'd need a read that someone is tight and cold-calls mostly pps OTB because I know my range for calling this pre is mostly really happy about this flop
don't like turn
and I don't even like river, I'd need to know that this guy was a fish and just called his draws
hand 2 I'd like to know whether he floats, puts out blockers, etc.
I'd have to make a range but I'm literrally falling asleep as we
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Parasurama
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hand 1 fold pre? idk about the table you were playing at but at my 50NL tables it's not profitable to open 89s utg.
hand 2 and 3 agree with gala
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Originally Posted by Parasurama
hand 1 fold pre? idk about the table you were playing at but at my 50NL tables it's not profitable to open 89s utg.
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Why? You're not going to be 3b light (unless I'm on your table) and you're going to steal the blinds a lot or get a caller that will fold the flop
btw ignore what I said last night I was tired
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dev
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Thanks for the responses guys, especially Gala.
Para, if the table is fairly tight pre and I haven't been over-agro (rare combination), I open SCs utg. As IOPQ said, cbets look so much stronger after opening UTG.
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Parasurama
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guys ignore what I said it was silly, I've just been frustrated lately with people cold calling against me in position
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griffey24
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1) I'm torn on this hand. This would really be a feel dependent hand for me, and what I put him on. I think its certainly too drawy to get him off any Q or a lot of Tx even
2) Why are you 3betting TT vs an UTG open? As played, I would pot control and check back turn. As played, I prob call this one off on the river and hope to see KQ.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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minSim
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1: Generally 3barrel bluffing an unknown can't be that good.
I would also give up on the turn with this hand and barrel most FD's with overs or combodraws. I don't agree we'll be called down by most Tx by a standard 50NL villain.
2+3 what has been said and I wouldn't cbet.
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Originally Posted by minSim
1: Generally 3barrel bluffing an unknown can't be that good.
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it's my default? 50nl is mostly nits and fish
I just don't like the first two bets
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dev
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So, in hand 1 are you planning on check/calling given odds and check/folding otherwise?
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Originally Posted by dev
So, in hand 1 are you planning on check/calling given odds and check/folding otherwise?
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we basically have only 3 outs to the nuts since the flush draw dominates us and only the 6 makes us the nuts and a jack just gives us the ass end of the straight
that said, we can still probably treat it as a 6 out draw counting the other outs as partial
I am still not sure if this line you took maximizes our EV
I just don't like the board texture cause nobody's folding anything
just makes me want to c/shove the turn or something retarded like that
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