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elipsesjeff
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09-13-2006, 04:11 PM
Post subject: Some 200 NL hands
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Hand 1: Villain is 44/10 and this is like my 3rd hand at the table and of the day.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($137.72)
MP ($229.71)
Hero ($197)
SB ($856.13)
BB ($426.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , A . SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($17) 6 , 3 , 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16.
Turn: ($49) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49, BB calls $49.
River: ($147) 6 (2 players)
BB calls $353.45 (All-In), Hero folds.
Final Pot: $500.45
Hand 2: Villain is 40/20
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($79)
BB ($379.85)
UTG ($68)
MP ($73.06)
Hero ($193)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K . SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $10.
Flop: ($29) J , T , 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $20, MP calls $20.
Turn: ($69) 8 (2 players)
MP calls $41.06 (All-In), Hero folds.
Final Pot: $110.06
Hand 3: Villain is 32/10/3
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($529.25)
UTG ($189.50)
Button ($246.78)
Hero ($204)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , T . Hero posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $7, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($16) T , 5 , 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, BB calls $11.
Turn: ($38) J (2 players)
Hero bets $27, BB calls $27.
River: ($92) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $32, BB calls $32.
Final Pot: $156
Hand 4: Villain is 29/22
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($304.74)
Hero ($194)
SB ($230.55)
BB ($214.75)
UTG ($25)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , T . SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8.
Flop: ($31) J , 8 , T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls $22, UTG folds.
Turn: ($75) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB calls $182.75 (All-In), Hero folds.
Final Pot: $307.75
All these seem pretty standard IMO, but just wondering if I can get a second opinion. Hand 1's push on the river felt kind of fishy, but not enough to pay for.
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Fnord
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Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.
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Betting full pot more often instead of 2/3 or 3/4 is something I'm working on now. What do you think of potting the flops in #s 2 and 4?
I think that's all I'd change in those...but in #3 I would c/c turn, block river unless there's too much chance of a bluff raise. #1 seems good- I really think the fish hit some hand and you only beat a bluff really.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.
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Is that moreso because its a blind situation than a player situation?
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Hand One: I might look him up here, but more often than not the huge overbet push is screaming "it's a bluff please call me," then you call and dude has a full boat.
Hand Three: Looking at this I'd say you're up against a baby flush or a set...maybe not that big, but I'd say you're at least up against something that beats you at showdown. This is basically why position rocks in poker. 
You didn't play any of the hands bad, IMO.
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1) I usually just fold here. It seems all the times I experiment and call, I lose.
2) Fine.
3) I'm not sure about this, the most obvious draw just hit. Maybe we should be checking behind here.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.
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Is that moreso because its a blind situation than a player situation?
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Bluff-like betting pattern against a loose player who sucks at poker (although a post-flop read would help here a lot.)
Although I think there is a clear class of river problems where the answer is "sometimes you look him up, sometimes you fold" and any deterministic answer is too exploitable.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Although I think there is a clear class of river problems where the answer is "sometimes you look him up, sometimes you fold" and any deterministic answer is too exploitable.
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Bingo. I honestly might just flip a coin here.
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