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DetroitHusling101
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01-06-2008, 04:14 AM
Post subject: Some $10NL 6 Max hands
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I play SNG's so naturally i suck at post flop. Decided to take a break so i could play like lagtard (i think i ran like 35vpip 18pfr over 100 hands i played).
I sometimes mix in some $25NL FR but decided to goof off at 6max. In the future i want to learn to be a good cash game player , so bear with me if i played these hands awful.
Hand 1: Loose raisor/player , only thing i've seen him showdown is garbage.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($5.70)
Hero ($7)
SB ($3.25)
BB ($14.90)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , J .
UTG raises to $0.3, Hero raises to $0.8, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.50.
Flop: ($1.75) J , 8 , 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, UTG raises to $4.9, Hero calls $3.40.
Hand 2: Villian is new to the table , so no reads. I had hud stats but don't recall any of them , sorry.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Button ($11.05)
SB ($6.05)
Hero ($10.80)
UTG ($10)
MP ($6)
CO ($16.65)
Preflop: Hero is BB with , . MP posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, SB raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.4, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $1.
Flop: ($3) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.5, SB folds.
Final Pot: $3
Hand 3: I should have been betting bigger on flop/turn to get the big stack more commited , right? I guess i was hoping one of them had a Ace (wtf did they have than?? lol) and would re raise me. Value bet too much??? WTF is the short stack folding here??
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB ($10.65)
Hero ($12.15)
MP ($11.45)
Button ($4.95)
SB ($16.55)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold.
Flop: ($1.30) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.8, Button calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80.
Turn: ($3.70) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $2.
River: ($9.70) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, Button folds, SB folds.
Final Pot: $9.70
Hand 4: I seen villian do this min raise PF with a big pair , so i figured if i hit 2pr+ i can stack him. Raise more on turn? , river kills my hand obv if im right with my read...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
MP ($9.85)
CO ($12.20)
Hero ($11.50)
SB ($9.80)
BB ($3.05)
UTG ($14.70)
Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
2 folds, CO raises to $0.2, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10.
Flop: ($0.65) , , (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($0.65) (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, BB folds, CO calls $1.
River: ($3.65) (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $3.65
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thizzSantaCruz
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every hand is good but bet river in hand 4
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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1) fold preflop
2) good
3) good
4) bet river
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DetroitHusling101
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Why bet the river on hand 4? What is going to call us that we beat that calls a reraise on the turn? Or is just because it's $10NL and I will get value from weaker hands?
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DetroitHusling101
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Nevermind I'm stupid...i get it now lol.
I guess the reason i didn't was i was dead set on my read that he had a overpair and not A-10/K-10/Q-10/J-10....
I forgot that i still have a better 2 pair than all those hands.
Obviously we bet/fold the river right? (assuming he c/rai us)
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this is NL10 we are betting the river and calling any push
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DetroitHusling101
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ultimate George
this is NL10 we are betting the river and calling any push
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At what $ Level do we start giving our opponents credit for having some kind of knowledge of poker , or i guess a brain for that matter?
$25?$50?
Generally when i play cash it's @ $25NL , but now i have a roll for $50NL so when i decide to start grinding the cash tables i think i will start at $50NL , which is why im wondering.
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thizzSantaCruz
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I play at 50 and it is very surprising how dumb people are. Even the smart ones are predictable.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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benny999
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on the third hand bet close to a psb on the flop becuause if someone has an ace or qj..even a Tx--KK, then they call a psb the same frequency as a 1/2 pot bet. turn and river are read-dependent but generally ok (prob 1/2 pot on river). btn folded a draw like qj/97.
4th hand, raise $2+ on turn fast. river check is ok with ur read. two pair is coutnerfeit and no value from draws.
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MuddyWicket
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Being a full ring freak I am stuck with reading hand 4.
Are those suggesting betting the 4th hand doing it because we fold better hands? i.e. higher pairs? By betting again strongly I think we are repping FH or str8's on this board and might fold a lot of hands but anything that shoves over that is surely beating us and the only reason I can see calling is because the pot will be so big???????????
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jackvance
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They all seem ok with your read. Hand 1 I wouldn't normally reraise KJs but if he's such a crazy donkey then sure, hand 4 if your read is overpair then the river check is ofcourse fine. But given his line I think it's unlikely he actually has an overpair, more like A9/AT/KT or something. If you bet river and get raised, fold.
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meeloche
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1) I wouldn't 3 bet this even if he's a loose raiser. There are better hands that play better in this spot, KJ is too easily dominated even if he's calling you light. Also if I am 3 betting i'm making it larger like 1ish.
2) I play the same. 3 bet size is good.
3) I also play the same. I would c/r river if I was 100% sure that one of them would bet it, but since you can't count on that obviously bet bet bet is good.
4) I would raise a little more on the turn to like 2 or 2.5 but river is fine if you're going with you're read. I wouldn't say that a min raise is always a big pair though. At these stakes a min raise is a lot of the times their standard raise. There so much goofy shit going on I wouldn't use preflop bet sizing tells unless you have a large sample.
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