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Pelion
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09-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Post subject: So many outs. Push/call or fold?
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4-of-a-Kind
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edit: Made a poll because I havnt made one before 
BB in this hand is 21/19/2 TAG who doesn't seem bad.
UTG is redonkulously bad 61/49/11 who has open pushed alot both preflop and on the flop into tiny pots. The one time he has been called preflop he sucked out and built his stack.
I called preflop on the basis that I had position on both of them and can get value from UTG with a top pair hand, and can float BB on quite alot of flops. Preflop is probably marginally bad but meh.
Whats your turn play and why?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($57.48)
SB ($76.95)
BB ($94.89)
UTG ($103.50)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , Q.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.25, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2.
Flop: ($7.75) 5 , 9, T (3 players)
BB bets $6, UTG folds, Hero calls $6.
Turn: ($19.75) J (2 players)
BB bets $15
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Ash256
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I call.
I really think he's in I HAVE AN OVERPAIR AT 50NL LOL LET'S GET IT IN mode, so I don't think we have FE.. He may even have a set.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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wow I hate PF and your flop play, can you put a poll on that.
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will641
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i think a push would be good, because you can push him off A 10-K, which seems like a very plausible hand he would have there.
Plus, if he does have top or over pair you have outs up the wazoo.
btw, why did you limp pre?
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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shove with a big smile on your face
you re flipping and if he's truly a decent player, then he ll think twice about felting AA/QQ here so you def have some fold equity
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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WildBobAA
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a 21/19 tag? wtf, that's not a tag
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snap shove.
p.s. if i'm limping along preflop, i'm not calling the raise.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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raise pre and i shove cuz he may fold an overpair or a T and we have teh nuts draw.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Yea the limp was because I lost concentration and thought I was limping behind alot of limpers...meh
I shove and he times right down to 2 seconds or so and then calls with KK. I river the straight flush. gg me.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
a 21/19 tag? wtf, that's not a tag
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thats pretty TAG for 6max. Its the loose end of TAG but it certainly isnt LAG.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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his call just doesn t make much $ vs your range
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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