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Old 06-14-2007, 07:07 PM     Post subject: So I like Turning pairs into bluffs..... #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is Lucky x 13 a reg with whom i have played a lot. hes about 22/13 and has shown in general a tendency to bluff raise and vbet thin as opposed to make big calls against me. my image is aggro tag/lag


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UTG ($1716.90)
MP ($1592.70)
CO ($769.70)
Button ($120)
SB ($438.10)
Hero ($696)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, Q.
UTG raises to $18, 3 folds, SB calls $15, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($54) T, A, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($54) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $33, UTG calls $33, SB folds.

River: ($120) J (2 players)
Hero bets $42, UTG raises to $333, Hero Bluff Shoves for 300ish more??


Villain in hand is a weak looking 30/17 lag with whom i dont have a ton of history. preflop seems kind of marginal.

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MP ($618.15)
Button ($300.40)
SB ($285.35)
BB ($616)
Hero ($582)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, 9.
Hero raises to $24, MP raises to $66, 3 folds, Hero calls $42.

Flop: ($141) T, 5, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $78, Hero calls $78.

Turn: ($297) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($297) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $84, Hero raises to $438,
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think you are behind in hand 1, so you are not turning it into a bluff - it IS a bluff. Well, maybe since guy is known to bluff raise you are turning a winner into a bluff. And laying odds besides... don't like with your read.


Hand 2 is muuuuch closer. Kind of a two-way, because he might fold K or J and might call with 66-99. I don't like PF because you are OOP, unless you are sure you can out play him. Did you?
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:25 PM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1 sucks hand 2 is sweet
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lol zenbitz u think im posting results after first reply???
I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
 
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:40 PM #5 (permalink)  
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In hand 1, why check behind on the flop? Are you opposed to building pots 3 handed with at least 12 near-nut outs? I much prefer betting the flop...
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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lol zenbitz u think im posting results after first reply???
I guess I meant "did you THINK you could out play him post flop"
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:26 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 : i m not sure you need to shove since you very likely have the best hand already. His range seems like KhQh/bluff so I don't think you get him to fold better by pushing.

13%pfr isn't usually raising K10s utg but his hand looks a lot like that to me.

Hand 2 is fine against a strong player but I don't really like it vs a weak player who'll have a tough time folding AK in this spot.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:28 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Genitruc is an unknown quantity at this point
 also Jeffrey I'm pretty sure sauce was expecting villain to bet flop in Hand 1 so he could CR.

I agree though that leading is fun in this spot.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:31 AM #9 (permalink)  
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hand 1 sucks hand 2 is sweet
yo bitch so like i folded hand 1 cause he has a combo draw runner runner flush and KQ and JJ too much even though intuitively at the time i wanted to shove cause hes fucking real lame and been givin me shit with hsi bluff raises but whatever ill stack him later i dont care.

and hand 2 i actually shoved and he 3 sec thought and folded cause AK isnt good here ever cause hes a dumb bitch and cant knock my hustle herrrewego vegas gogogogo
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 06-15-2007, 02:19 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 hand 2 is sweet but who likes a smaller raise?
hand 1: I dont get it isnt this a backdoor flush always?
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