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Vi-Zer0Skill
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07-26-2008, 03:50 AM
Post subject: small stakes prop bet (cancelled)
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Reagan's Kid
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i've been really lazy logging hands as well as generally not playing my best this month (down 2k). next month has to be different, and hopefully FTR can help make august a memorable month in poker!
Here are the terms of the prop bet i'd like to set up:
(if you have other suggestions let me know in this thread)
-winnings can only come from 200NL or lower 6handed
-im flexible on the size of the wager, but im thinking somewhere between 200-500USD would work best for generating incentive/keeping stress low
-the timeframe will be from august 7 to august 21
-for the sake of convenience, please have a pokerstars or full tilt account set up so money can be easily transferred to the winner
the person with the highest net profit, verified through PT/HEM screenshot (or whatever additional ways of verifying there are), over the two week period wins. the more who participate, the more fun this will be!
I will be out of town and without internet access from august 1 to august 6, so all those interested must let me know before 11:59PM on July 30
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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freechus9
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for those of us that arent rolled enough can we measure profits in BB?
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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Originally Posted by freechus9
for those of us that arent rolled enough can we measure profits in BB?
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the one big reason i can think of that makes this not a viable option is the fact that you could play far less hands than someone else who netted a higher profit and win anyways. maybe we'll end up adjusting the terms?
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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freechus9
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Originally Posted by freechus9
for those of us that arent rolled enough can we measure profits in BB?
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the one big reason i can think of that makes this not a viable option is the fact that you could play far less hands than someone else who netted a higher profit and win anyways. maybe we'll end up adjusting the terms?
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I dont understand what you mean.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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griffey24
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He's saying that if you do it by winrate, playing A can play 1k hands at 5 BB/100 and player B can play 4k hands at 2.5 BB/100.
Player B will have a higher profit, but player A will win with less profit but higher BB/100.
Also, it's harder to compare BB/100 amongst different stakes, cause some levels are easier than others. 3 BB/100 at one stake isn't the same as another.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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ty griffey
hmmm so far i'm not seeing the interest i'd hoped
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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BigLRIP
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I'd probably be interested. Id prefer to "buyin" closer to $200 than $500 though.
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oh u can set up something like whoever who has at least a 2ptbb/100 winrate AND at least 10k hands (or whatever) wins.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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bump
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Deanglow
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how about you guys focus on making money. just my 2c
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BigLRIP
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
how about you guys focus on making money. just my 2c
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well if your normal stakes are 100/200nl then this would help you make money by motivating you to play more...
Anyways here are my thoughts on this:
-I will participate if we get a couple more to join in
-Winner is decided by total money won, not pt/bb
hmm thought i had more, but thats it for now. I will keep checking this thread to see how it develops
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Maybe I will participate, I also thnk that total money won is the correct way to do it. I also like the idea that |~|ypermegachi mentioned to have a minimum raked hand size.
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Genitruc
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If I run pretty badly I´ll be playing a decent amount of nl200 during that time span and I´d def be interested
Unfortunately I prob won t be able to tell you during the timeframe mentioned.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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last bump
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Pythonic
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I'd smoke you all if we did it by bb/100.
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Never bet on a white man in the heavyweight division!
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Silly String
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Originally Posted by griffey24
He's saying that if you do it by winrate, playing A can play 1k hands at 5 BB/100 and player B can play 4k hands at 2.5 BB/100.
Player B will have a higher profit, but player A will win with less profit but higher BB/100.
Also, it's harder to compare BB/100 amongst different stakes, cause some levels are easier than others. 3 BB/100 at one stake isn't the same as another.
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He isn't talking BB/100. He is talking cumulative BB's over the specified period so 100NL guys can get in on this without getting crushed dollarwise.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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BigLRIP
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Alright so im guessing you want confirmation, so i will confirm my participation in the prop bet (for now assuming there is atleast 2 other people participating, I can definately change my mind on this though). I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of $250-$300 but am semi flexible. Before it starts we should set a clear set of rules to avoid confusion etc. Oh, and escrow??
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Genitruc
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I can escrow for you guys if you want.
I may be gone for 5 days around the 21st of aug but besides that I'll be around... + I may get in on this at the last minute.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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biglrip it looks like it's just you and me right now
if we don't get anyone else to confirm they will participate by midnight tonight, i think we'll just drop the prop bet.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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