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Kagey
Old 11-18-2007, 10:10 AM     Post subject: silly hand #1 (permalink)  
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UTG is 35/9 and MP is 53/11. I have absolutely no idea what they have. Both are passive. I checked the river because I thought my cards were face up. If Villain is in any way obsevant he can put me on AQ+,10 10+ pre-flop, and AQ, AK post-flop. Weak or what?
GAME #723531532: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2007-11-15 13:50:36
Table Lenasia
Seat 1: BB ($64.21 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG ($57.25 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG+1 ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 6: MP ($120.10 in chips)
Seat 8: Button ($44.81 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: kagey22 ($78.75 in chips)
kagey22: Post SB $0.25
BB: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to kagey22 [Ah Kd]
UTG: Call $0.50
UTG+1: Fold
MP: Call $0.50
Button: Fold
kagey22: Raise $3.00
BB: Fold
UTG: Call $2.75
MP: Call $2.75
*** FLOP *** [2d 2h 6h]
kagey22: Check
UTG: Check
MP: Check
*** TURN *** [4c]
kagey22: Check
UTG: Check
MP: Check
*** RIVER *** [Ac]
kagey22: Check
UTG: Bet $8.00
MP: Fold
kagey22: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.75 Rake $0.50
UTG: wins $17.75
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:15 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Do you hate money? They are donkeys, they aren't observant and they certainly aren't good hand readers.

I don't totally hate flop+turn though I prefer a flop bet since they usually have unpaired cards with 6 outs. If they do have a medium pair then they are gonna try and get to showdown so we get to see both turn+river to spike TPTK and make a nice value bet since the pot is bigger.

As played on flop turn, just go ahead and bet the river and watch them call with 77. Probably call if they raise (depending on excactly how passive they are), they will show up with worse aces alot. After checking the river, you gotta at least call the bet. Your hand looks like two cards that has missed, since you've shown no strength at all postflop. Good spot for him to bluff the scare card. Not to mention that he's gonna valuebet any ace hoping you'll call with TT or so.

Short answer to the question in the OP: Yes.

Oh and use the hand converter (god this post makes me sound like a deuche).
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I like to c-bet this flop. Loose players are less likely to have hit on flops to c-bet against them more. And please don't fold this. If they're bad enough I might even c/r here as played just because they will call with any ace.

What did you put him on anyway?


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Old 11-19-2007, 03:35 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 bet flop. As played bet river, or check-call. Check-fold is horrible
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 11-19-2007, 04:45 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I didn't c-bet the flop because it was one of those tables where everyone is calling with any overs, and they were paying out when you hit a hand. I really just over (or under) thought this one. I just assumed he would narrow my range sufficiently to only bet if he could beat a pair of aces. Although here it says in black and white 'calling with any overs, paying out when you hit a hand' god knows why I assume they can hand read. I can only plead temporary insanity. Anyway he showed k6d.
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I didn't c-bet the flop because it was one of those tables where everyone is calling with any overs
but your overs are better than their overs!
I would absolutly cbet for the reasons stated above, and i'm definitely betting the river i think c/c is bad and c/f is definitely way worse!
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