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will641
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05-20-2008, 04:14 PM
Post subject: sick river spot w/ over pair.
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ss i obv dont care about, ill stack all day against him. the big stack is 60/15/3/100. no reads other than that.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($228)
Hero ($332.20)
CO ($37.55)
Button ($927.45)
SB ($216)
BB ($50.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP with K , K .
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.
Flop: ($27) Q , 3, 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $20, CO calls $20, Button calls $20.
Turn: ($87) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $64, CO calls $9.55 (All-In), Button calls $64.
River: ($-4.35) 2 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero...?
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I think this is a pretty easy bet/fold.
I don't think he's gonna bluff shove you on this river, since an Ace is so strongly in your range.
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i love how the pot is -$4.35 on the river. It looks like its actually at $225 and we have right about a PSB left so its hard to b/f here even though its def the best play with deeper stacks. Vs a 60/15 i think i just b/c like 1/2 pot.
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this is a super standard c/f
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this is a super standard c/f
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okay this is what i was planning on doing. so what do you do when he bets $60?
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yeah easy c/f, i might soul-read call the 60$ sometimes but semi-standard fold there too
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Genitruc
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check-fold
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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id jam, why do u think he has a 6/A/2pr often enough?
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i think villain's range is any 2 hearts, lots of which have a 6 or A in them, A5, A4, 65
and plenty of Qx
god outside of KQ QJ QT stuff I'm not sure he has anything without A or 6 or 2 pr in it besides like 78hh
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
i think villain's range is any 2 hearts, lots of which have a 6 or A in them, A5, A4, 65
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ya that, and its also deep how do we jam and get called by QJ?
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Everyone saying c/f, are you guys ever checking this river when you DO have an ace?
I think his range is heavily heavily weighted towards FD's and Qx, and I'd imagine we might often get raised at some point if he had the nut FD or AQ. I don't think many Aces are in his range here.
I'd rather c/c here than c/f here, against this kinda loose donkish villain.
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He's not betting Qx on the river, so if he is betting a missed flush draw, he has an A or 6 to go with it a lot of the time.
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I mostly don't like c/f'ing because we're rarely checking an ace here. So any thinking player will know they can steal this pot once we check.
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Originally Posted by Alexos
60/15
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ok touche... I agree he's prob not a big thinking player..
that being said, how do we play the river if he's a TAGGy player or thinking player?
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if hes thinking id be more inclined to value bet
im still not liking c/c
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alexos i think you should revert back to your old avatar. is that logo for a hockey team?
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Originally Posted by will641
alexos i think you should revert back to your old avatar. is that logo for a hockey team?
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haha yah I agree! its a montreal canadiens logo and it needs to go!
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half the pot is protected by the cards of an all in shortstack, which are often an ace and something. this makes it a bad spot to value bet marginally out of position and also makes it a bad spot to bluff. I think checking an ace to balance is a little extreme, so what about betting like 35$ with KQ/KK type hands as well as Ax?
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Originally Posted by will641
alexos i think you should revert back to your old avatar. is that logo for a hockey team?
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yah i think im ready to switch it back now, might give it a few days more just for closure
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