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Old 10-13-2008, 04:34 AM     Post subject: Shove to this flop 3bet? 100NL #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain has been raising BU about 85% of the time and cbetting close to that amount of time too. I've checked raise a few times, his called my flop C/R once so far and folded rest. This is the first time a C/R by me has been raised on any street. Villain probably sees me a little on the passive side rather than agro maniac, so I don't see him 3betting here without a real hand. If I'm beat, do I go broke here everytime?

Hero has Ad 2h.

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Button ($164.70)

Preflop:
Button raises to $3, SB calls $2

Flop: ($6) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Button bets $4, SB raises to $13, Button raises to $35, [color=#CC3333]
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I feel like this has to be a fold. There is no way he is taking this line with a bare club and I highly doubt he would play AxKc this way. The only thing you accomplish by putting any more bets in on this flop is hand protection which is unnecessary because people aren't bluffing often in this situation. I guess you could also flat and call down but I lean towards folding.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:52 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 So the way the action has been, the only thing i'm really beating is a bluff or Ax n high club? What kinda hand should I put him on?

In HU, flopping top n bottom two pair n folding even on this board, is it considered a big laydown or standard? still kinda new to HU
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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It's all player dependent. I wouldn't say it's a standard fold but if you feel like your opponent isn't super aggressive, and somewhat solid your hand on this board is not strong enough to get it in. I would say his range is A2,A6,22,66,AA,XcXc, and sometimes AxKc (assuming he is not a spew tard).

Also the lowest Ax os you should be calling a preflop raise with oop is A8. You will find your self getting into much less of these situations by doing so.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:10 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Kewl. Thanks for the response. This is how the hand went:

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SB ($156.90)
Hero (Button) ($164.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2

Flop: ($6) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $13, Hero raises to $35, SB raises to $153.90 (All-In), Hero calls $118.90

Turn: ($313.80) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($313.80) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $313.80 | Rake: $0.50

Results in white below:
Hero had 5, J (flush, Ace high).
SB had 2, A (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: Hero won $313.30

I was really curious to see if I coolered him (again not sure about heads up play, regular game its easier to let go) or was there something diff he could've done. I didn't know what I would've done in his place and wasn't sure what the correct play might have been so was really curious. I think I wudda went broke there as well, but will definitely re-evaluate my play after reading ur responses.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:34 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 If you had just sat down at this table and this hand went down i'd say the person with A2 should stack off. Since you have a few more reads kapila is probably right and this is a fold. This is one of the things you have to adjust to with hu because 1) he has like every suited club in his range 2) these aren't boards .5/1 players are playing back at 3) run it.
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 wow i just realized on monotone boards at the button raiser you should be playing really aggro.
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wow i just realized on monotone boards at the button raiser you should be playing really aggro.
Did not quite understand what you meant by this.

If I'mthe PFR on BU n flop is monotone, I should be playing more agro and making moves post flop?
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:33 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 yea against most
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