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Should this have been an easy fold? (10 NL)
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sndp
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08-11-2006, 12:55 AM
Post subject: Should this have been an easy fold? (10 NL)
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 84
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Long story short, after a series of over-extended (and eventually busted) BRs I'm restarting from scratch and planning on asking you guys when I come up to something that I'm not too sure about (maybe even ones I think I am sure about).
Villan is 66/13/1.61 after about a hundred hands. My stats for the table so far was 34/26/3.14.
My concern is about the turn play (I know, let me have it...). At the time I think I realized I was behind, but at the same time I'd convinced myself that I wanted to get it all in (that's where the min raising came from). Is that just the gambler in me thinking, or was I right to do this?
Also, is going AI after his Turn check a viable option here? Would it change anything?
My rational was if I was in fact behind, I can't fold here (first mistake?) but also that I could very well be ahead here against AxKh (is that giving too much credit?)
After the hand, I wasn't sure if I beat myself here (the nonsense on the Turn), or if I was destined to lose this pot.
I'd appreciate any input. This is at a 6max $10NL table on FullTilt, incase anyone's curious.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
4 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.10
Hero: $17.25
SB: $14.40
BB: $3.15
Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with A K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.4, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: Q T J ($0.9, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls.
Turn: A ($2.9, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $12, SB raises all-in $13, Hero calls.
River: 6 ($28.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $28.9)
Results:
Final pot: $28.9
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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If you want an easy no pressure start go to www. performpoker..com, guaranteed not to lose money
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mcatdog
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2005
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It's fine. A lot of people will play this way with a naked king, and you'd love to get all-in against them because you'll either split the pot or win it if the river is a heart.
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
If you want an easy no pressure start go to www. performpoker..com, guaranteed not to lose money
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Don't do this, keep posting your hands in this forum and trying to learn. By the way I think 26% is way too many hands to raise for almost all players and it's certainly too many for a beginning player.
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sndp
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 84
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About the performance poker, I don't know if I couldn't handle playing cards to a chart like that.
I'm not exactly a beginner at this, but I'm definitely looking to learn how to play a consistently good game, rather than the ridiculous gamble-gamble-gamble version that I am so accustomed to 
As for the OP, is the correct move here to go all in after his check? Does AxKh call me there, or am I pushing him out and only getting called by the made flush? That was rationale behind the small raises, that an Ace
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Anosmic
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by sndp
About the performance poker, I don't know if I couldn't handle playing cards to a chart like that.
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I'd call that a leak. Fine if you don't like it as a system, but if you CAN'T face playing like that, and you like to gambool, and you've busted a few BRs you're letting your inner andreneline junkie run your game.
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I'm not exactly a beginner at this, but I'm definitely looking to learn how to play a consistently good game, rather than the ridiculous gamble-gamble-gamble version that I am so accustomed to
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Not sure what counts as a beginner these days. But look at it this way: if you're starting over, you're a beginner 
Performance Poker won't help you unless you switch to full-ring; which is a good way of learning to play tighter.
But assuming you want short-handed then why not check out Renton's strat post . Certainly may help in getting your pf stats in order.
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As for the OP, is the correct move here to go all in after his check? Does AxKh call me there, or am I pushing him out and only getting called by the made flush? That was rationale behind the small raises, that an Ace
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I think the straight would have to call even if you pushed and you could still pick that pot up.
But I think your line looks fine. There's no hand out there you can't outdraw on the river (except K9h) and you have the nut-straight already; if you lost it I'd just chalk that up to variance.
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sndp
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 84
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Yeah, I can't disagree that it might be a leak.
Villan showed down 84 of Hearts, btw.
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