in short handed NL. it's raise or fold preflop?

**diabloiij** · 12-04-2005 12:48 PM

well that's a little extreme i say. but i find it working very well for me for the pass couple of days. (getting bore of card camping 4 tabling 10 max, wanted more action for a change)

i usually raise with group 1-4 in any position, and raise with group 5 or below with position. sometimes even with any 2 cards. followed by some solid post flop play. i find it that alot of people have been reading the poker books out there and have learned how to play ABC poker on a full table. but in short handed NL in my opinion requires more skills and reads to win. so 6 max gives u the chance to outplay ur opponent more often hence yeilds more profits as well.

Agree? yes no?

**Sharkyman** · 12-04-2005 01:29 PM

Yes I've won more playing short. BUT with the bigger ups there is also bigger downs...

**Miffed22001** · 12-04-2005 03:06 PM

in 6max if i cant raise i dont play

**Cocco_Bill** · 12-04-2005 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

in 6max if i cant raise i dont play

Thats terrible advice.

**aislephive** · 12-05-2005 05:25 AM

Typically if I'm the first in a pot I am raising, I always like to be the one in control. I'll limp with a bunch of other limpers if I've got a small pair or suited connector or something that can hit a nice flop. I play positional LAG and it seems to work well for the most part. Everything I do has to do with position.

**WildBobAA** · 12-05-2005 05:57 AM

Here's a great article by JDags about Short Handed NL.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/proLessons.php?lesson=33

**Pingviini** · 12-05-2005 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

in 6max if i cant raise i dont play

Thats terrible advice.

OMG! I have to agree with a swede! this is probably like 2nd time ever

But really, there is nothing wrong letting others do the aggroing stuff if you can profitably trap them with SC's and PP's and such.

A couple of weeks ago I was just trying to be the table bully raising a lot PF but you know, 100BB game is all about post flop. 4x PF doesnt really mean that much, at least if you have position..

**Pingviini** · 12-05-2005 06:06 AM

A good player will have bigger edge on SH tables for sure. Also if you are to play aggressive your variance will be pretty high as well. I have no idea which hands are in which groups partly because the original hand groupings such in No Limit and because after you learn to play the cards you dont have to remember any mechanical rules but you try to adjust to the game..

Anyways, I am glad you are giving SH a try. Just dont be too upset if you will have a rough start, atleast I had one..

12-04-2005 12:48 PM #1
diabloiij View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 41	in short handed NL. it's raise or fold preflop? well that's a little extreme i say. but i find it working very well for me for the pass couple of days. (getting bore of card camping 4 tabling 10 max, wanted more action for a change) i usually raise with group 1-4 in any position, and raise with group 5 or below with position. sometimes even with any 2 cards. followed by some solid post flop play. i find it that alot of people have been reading the poker books out there and have learned how to play ABC poker on a full table. but in short handed NL in my opinion requires more skills and reads to win. so 6 max gives u the chance to outplay ur opponent more often hence yeilds more profits as well. Agree? yes no?
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aislephive View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 1,549 Location Downswinging holla!	Typically if I'm the first in a pot I am raising, I always like to be the one in control. I'll limp with a bunch of other limpers if I've got a small pair or suited connector or something that can hit a nice flop. I play positional LAG and it seems to work well for the most part. Everything I do has to do with position.

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Pingviini View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2005 Posts 1,227 Location Bangkok	Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill Originally Posted by Miffed22001 in 6max if i cant raise i dont play Thats terrible advice. OMG! I have to agree with a swede! this is probably like 2nd time ever But really, there is nothing wrong letting others do the aggroing stuff if you can profitably trap them with SC's and PP's and such. A couple of weeks ago I was just trying to be the table bully raising a lot PF but you know, 100BB game is all about post flop. 4x PF doesnt really mean that much, at least if you have position..
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12-05-2005 06:06 AM #8
Pingviini View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2005 Posts 1,227 Location Bangkok	A good player will have bigger edge on SH tables for sure. Also if you are to play aggressive your variance will be pretty high as well. I have no idea which hands are in which groups partly because the original hand groupings such in No Limit and because after you learn to play the cards you dont have to remember any mechanical rules but you try to adjust to the game.. Anyways, I am glad you are giving SH a try. Just dont be too upset if you will have a rough start, atleast I had one..
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