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Dislexsik
Old 01-01-2007, 11:24 PM     Post subject: set vs lag #1 (permalink)  
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He was running 55/25.
Board looks really ugly on the river, should i call anyway since i called the turn?
And is pushing turn better then this line?


The Fast and the Furious 10475227-119065 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Hand Start.
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 1 : Ilaughatyou has $118.50
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 2 : mcindahouse has $97.50
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 3 : mrskin has $90.75
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 4 : seansouth has $84.50
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 5 : shkalim has $84.25
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Seat 6 : ceres289 has $134
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : Ilaughatyou is the dealer.
[Jan 2 00:51:54] : mcindahouse posted small blind.
[Jan 2 00:51:56] : mrskin posted big blind.
[Jan 2 00:51:56] : Game [119065] started with 6 players.
[Jan 2 00:51:56] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 2 00:51:56] : Seat 1 : Ilaughatyou has 9c 9s
[Jan 2 00:51:58] : seansouth folded.
[Jan 2 00:51:59] : shkalim folded.
[Jan 2 00:52:00] : ceres289 called $1
[Jan 2 00:52:06] : Ilaughatyou called $1
[Jan 2 00:52:06] : mcindahouse folded.
[Jan 2 00:52:08] : mrskin checked.
[Jan 2 00:52:08] : Dealing flop.
[Jan 2 00:52:08] : Board cards [6s Ts 9h]
[Jan 2 00:52:11] : mrskin checked.
[Jan 2 00:52:14] : ceres289 bet $4
[Jan 2 00:52:19] : Ilaughatyou called $4 and raised $9
[Jan 2 00:52:20] : mrskin folded.
[Jan 2 00:52:23] : ceres289 called $9
[Jan 2 00:52:24] : Dealing turn.
[Jan 2 00:52:24] : Board cards [6s Ts 9h Kd]
[Jan 2 00:52:29] : ceres289 bet $20
[Jan 2 00:52:32] : Ilaughatyou called $20
[Jan 2 00:52:32] : Dealing river.
[Jan 2 00:52:32] : Board cards [6s Ts 9h Kd 8s]
[Jan 2 00:52:37] : ceres289 bet $25
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:10 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Please raise more on the flop so you can get it all in on the turn. That is all.
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 river decision sux but I usually call since a lot of ppl will push the straight and you re getting a niiiiice price

edit : so I forgot that 3 "s" s mean villain could have a flush...
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 but i m a station so you might not wanna take my advice
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:02 PM #6 (permalink)  
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you played the turn bad
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:47 PM #7 (permalink)  
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you played the turn bad
thnx for that deep intellectual advice.
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:31 PM #8 (permalink)  
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he's right though.

raise pre to establish post flop fold equity. raise more when you hit in most situations against laggs. Never call behind with a monster in any remotely drawing situation - you're giving laggs exactly what they want and allowing the table to be turned on you.

I think the river is probably a call. If he's a lagg and he makes that river bet, his hand range you can put him on is wider than simply a made flush. He's giving you good odds. I'd call.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:01 PM #9 (permalink)  
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he's right though.
he is, but posts like that arent really helpfull.I know i fucked up this hand, thats why i ask advice.If i want the answer to be u played it good/bad, i would make a poll instead.
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:05 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Well lets see if you played the turn bad what other possible actions can we do? Folding is not an option. Try to think about what people say instead of insta-flaming them. It's amazing what you can deduce.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:11 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Well lets see if you played the turn bad what other possible actions can we do? Folding is not an option. Try to think about what people say instead of insta-flaming them. It's amazing what you can deduce.
lol flaming, do u know what flaming is?...
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:27 PM #12 (permalink)  
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In short, stop being a jerk to people that are trying to help you.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:34 PM #13 (permalink)  
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In short, stop being a jerk to people that are trying to help you.
Where was i being a jerk?geez
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:36 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Well lets see if you played the turn bad what other possible actions can we do? Folding is not an option.
ty, i thought it was obvious too..
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:37 PM #15 (permalink)  
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thnx for that deep intellectual advice.
So this isnt a condescending, sarcastic remark? Either way whatever. What site is this? The HH's are pretty hard to follow.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:40 PM #16 (permalink)  
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thnx for that deep intellectual advice.
So this isnt a condescending, sarcastic remark? Either way whatever. What site is this? The HH's are pretty hard to follow.
yeh i really came over like a jerk...

anyway thats a HH from VCpoker wich is from Tribeca.
I cant find a handconverter for those hh's, they should make one for tribeca too.
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:25 PM #17 (permalink)  
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yeh i really came over like a jerk...
You came across as either

a) a jerk
b) someone who needs every little thing spelled out for him

If you're lucky, it's a) because b) doesn't bode great things for your poker career.
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:26 PM #18 (permalink)  
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 raise preflop raise turn
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:30 PM #19 (permalink)  
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yeh i really came over like a jerk...
You came across as either

a) a jerk
b) someone who needs every little thing spelled out for him

If you're lucky, it's a) because b) doesn't bode great things for your poker career.
Why dont u go fuck urself and change ur tampon.

Just drop it!

NOW i came over as a jerk!
seriously this forum can really be gay sometimes.
 
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:18 PM #20 (permalink)  
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Why dont u go fuck urself and change ur tampon.

Just drop it!

NOW i came over as a jerk!
seriously this forum can really be gay sometimes.
And he tilts, too! Awesome. Introspection is your friend.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:28 PM #21 (permalink)  
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 Anyone else raise the river as played?
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:10 PM #22 (permalink)  
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Why dont u go fuck urself and change ur tampon.

Just drop it!

NOW i came over as a jerk!
seriously this forum can really be gay sometimes.
If you really have this little self-control then you are picking up the wrong hobby. Im not trolling or trying to extend this little deal. I just hope that you might be able to think about this for a bit. Hopefully after some reflection you will be a better person / poker player because of it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:14 PM #23 (permalink)  
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Anyone else raise the river as played?
The hand is under-repped but alot of draws came in. Raising is spewing IMHO. If we want to raise we need to raise the turn. Really there is no other way to play the hand.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:32 PM #24 (permalink)  
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Why dont u go fuck urself and change ur tampon.

Just drop it!

NOW i came over as a jerk!
seriously this forum can really be gay sometimes.
If you really have this little self-control then you are picking up the wrong hobby. Im not trolling or trying to extend this little deal. I just hope that you might be able to think about this for a bit. Hopefully after some reflection you will be a better person / poker player because of it.
Ur right.
Im calm now...
 
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:15 PM #25 (permalink)  
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If it's any consolation Dislexic, I think you got involved in a fight with the popular kid and everyone rushed to his defense. I thought Gabe's comment lacked content as well. Too bad you're not more popular around here.
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lol

just like gnomes said, there are only a few options on the turn:raise, call, fold. obviously hes not folding and the option he chose is bad, so what does that leave???
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:17 PM #27 (permalink)  
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Technically speaking you are right, but you could have given him some more advice than: "You played the turn bad."
I know you like to keep your posts to a minimum WPP, but I felt Dislexic needed to hear that he wasn't that wrong up until the point when he went to flaming Gnomes.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:20 PM #28 (permalink)  
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If it's any consolation Dislexic, I think you got involved in a fight with the popular kid and everyone rushed to his defense. I thought Gabe's comment lacked content as well. Too bad you're not more popular around here.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:13 PM     Post subject: consensus #29 (permalink)  
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 I agree with the consensus to raise preflop.

On the turn, why are you flat calling? Afraid of QJ I'm assuming? I'd still say raise here and HARD. I think you gotta pay off a straight here, and make the FD pay hard.

As played, his river bet is too small relative to the pot, so we have to call.
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just like gnomes said, there are only a few options on the turn:raise, call, fold. obviously hes not folding and the option he chose is bad, so what does that leave???
I still can't work it out.
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