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Old 04-18-2007, 09:51 PM     Post subject: set, terrible turn #1 (permalink)  
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villian is not a regular, kinda loose and not very aggro. I haven't seen him do anything out of the ordinary.

I've posted hands like this before, i tried i different line this time.

POKERSTARS GAME #9489417947: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/04/18 - 17:25:43 (ET)
Table 'Clementina II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 2PAUL2 ($207 in chips)
Seat 2: dohrandalia ($409.45 in chips)
Seat 3: habraken ($131.45 in chips)
Seat 4: IMSUPERCREAL ($337.05 in chips)
Seat 5: lupin1 ($165.35 in chips)
2PAUL2: posts small blind $1
dohrandalia: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [7d 7c]
habraken: folds
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $6 to $8
lupin1: calls $8
2PAUL2: folds
dohrandalia: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h Tc 9s]
IMSUPERCREAL: bets $14
TwistedEcho is connected
TwistedEcho has returned
lupin1: calls $14
*** TURN *** [7h Tc 9s] [6h]
IMSUPERCREAL: checks
lupin1: checks
*** RIVER *** [7h Tc 9s 6h] [5s]
IMSUPERCREAL: bets $30
lupin1: raises $42 to $72
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $42
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i prob just check call riv since there's no value. I may fold to push too.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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theres def value in a river bet, although i might bet a little less
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:02 PM #4 (permalink)  
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and then call a push obv?
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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why do you say obv so much

of course u dont obv call a push
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:40 PM #6 (permalink)  
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betting or checking the river is completely dependent on villain's aggression as is betting or checking the turn. If hes not very aggro I think ur line is fine, providing you fold to his raise as a loose and passive villain isnt bluff raising you on the river and isnt value raising a worse hand. I like your river bet size btw
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:41 PM #7 (permalink)  
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and then call a push obv?
I have a feeling this reply isnt sarcastic.... and since it isnt- WTF?!?
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:48 PM #8 (permalink)  
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and then call a push obv?
I have a feeling this reply isnt sarcastic.... and since it isnt- WTF?!?
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:50 PM #9 (permalink)  
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yea try not to say any form of obvious for a week
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:50 PM #10 (permalink)  
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b/f river mayber?
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:32 AM #11 (permalink)  
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yea try not to say any form of obvious for a week
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:25 AM #12 (permalink)  
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lol at gabe
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:46 AM #13 (permalink)  
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i kinda like a check/call on this river.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:05 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:07 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:07 AM #16 (permalink)  
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I usually bet half pot (20-25$) and fold to a raise
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:12 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:45 PM #18 (permalink)  
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betting or checking the river is completely dependent on villain's aggression as is betting or checking the turn.
Villian isn't aggressive, i think his AF was a little over 1.

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Old 04-19-2007, 06:16 PM #19 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:26 PM #20 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:55 PM #21 (permalink)  
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yea try not to say any form of obvious for a week
and everyone else substitute "ISF" for any form of "obvious" whenever they post.
TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
 
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:01 PM #22 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:06 PM #23 (permalink)  
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You can't automatically fold when you bet and get raised here on the river. You have to realize that pot control lines on the turn invite villain bluff ranges into your call value on a board like this, and in a way this protects you against the made hand longterm. In other words calling the end raise will flip air out of the villain hole a surprising amount of time.

You can't automatically assume this range however, because as someone stated, some players just don't bluff raise a river.
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yea try not to say any form of obvious for a week
and everyone else substitute "ISF" for any form of "obvious" whenever they post.
Haha, say "Skinviously"
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:24 PM #25 (permalink)  
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how bout Iowaviously?
You know Xianti, 80% sure he can set language filters so every time someone says "xxx" or "xxxxxxxx" it will be "iowabviously"
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:44 PM #27 (permalink)  
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how bout Iowaviously?
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:45 PM #28 (permalink)  
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:57 PM #29 (permalink)  
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how bout Iowaviously?
You're like dumb, because someone already said that. (Tosses Softball)
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