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Old 09-20-2006, 08:22 AM     Post subject: Set of Queens in reraised pot - I want to die 2/4 #1 (permalink)  
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BB ($114.10)
Hero ($463.60)
MP ($417.60)
Button ($557.34)
SB ($166.13)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $14, MP raises to $45, 3 folds, Hero calls $31.

Flop: ($96) 5, A, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($96) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $60, MP calls $60.

River: ($216) T (2 players)
Hero bets $150, MP calls $312.60 (All-In), Hero folds.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:33 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Very odd. Do you think he would check behind with top set or top pair, top kicker on the flop? The river push looks like either A-A or A-K of spades. It's hard for me to think of what else he could have since it's clear he doesn't have K-K or T-T.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:29 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Tough hand. All I can think it could be is AA/AKs. I think it's more likely that he could have TT then dsaxton. KK is out. AQ would raise the turn. then again AA probably would too. KY is unlikely to rr pf or call the turn.

Weird weird hand. I call though just because it's crazy.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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haha I just saw this hand on 2+2. You suck at poker.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:03 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i havent seen it, and i insta-call.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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OMG CALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, its not like he pushes for a million dollars more
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:42 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 09-20-2006, 02:56 PM #10 (permalink)  
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god i hate two plus two. They see someone make what appears to be only a minor error and they exaggerate it "WORST FOLD IN THE HISTORY OF SHORTHANDED NLHE."


Its certainly a call, because you are certainly good at least 20% of the time. But its a crying call definitely.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:27 PM #11 (permalink)  
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A lot of posters on 2p2 give advice from a vaccuum and then troll the forums until they have 40k posts. I wasn't expecting them to say anything other than what they said.

I bet pretty strongly on the river as well, I think AQ doesn't even raise the river to be honest and given I have QQ it's extremely unlikely. TT folds to my turn bet although TT undoubtedly bets the flop. He isn't reraising with a small pair preflop, and certainly isn't pushing it on the river. The only hand I could really put him on was a made flush, probably Axs, or AAA. I need to be good like 20% of the time to call, and I really doubt I'm good that often.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:32 PM #12 (permalink)  
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what about KK?
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:43 PM #13 (permalink)  
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what about KK?
KK as a bluff? I'm positive his push is never ever a bluff, I made a very substantial bet with not a ton of money behind, he has to think he has zero fold equity.

Also, he instantly pushed the river, huge sign of strength.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:15 PM #14 (permalink)  
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god i hate two plus two. They see someone make what appears to be only a minor error and they exaggerate it "WORST FOLD IN THE HISTORY OF SHORTHANDED NLHE."
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lol you agree with me or lol it was definitely the worst fold in the history of shorthanded nlhe?
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:40 PM #16 (permalink)  
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both i guess..

i agree that lots of people over there do that too much, but also i think the fold is bad usually.
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