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Old 05-01-2006, 07:21 PM     Post subject: Set-over-set situations #1 (permalink)  
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Decent (tight-passive) opponents. Second hand is unavoidable, first hand is an easy fold to his 3-bet right? I misplayed them too, I know.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $342.85
UTG+1: $35.90
CO: $187.85
Hero: $210.20
SB: $171.15
BB: $312.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 3 3
UTG raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 9 9 3 ($13, 2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero calls.

Turn: J ($33, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 4 ($33, 2 players)
UTG bets $40, Hero raises to $100, UTG raises all-in $287.85, Hero calls all-in $95.2.
Uncalled bets: $92.65 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $423.4
UTG shows Jd Jc

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Stack sizes:
Hero: $319.90
UTG+1: $197.00
CO: $210.15
Button: $441.20
SB: $92.55
BB: $196.28

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 2 2
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 2 7 T ($10, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, CO raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A ($34, 2 players)
Hero bets $24, CO raises to $56, Hero raises to $104, CO raises all-in $140.15, Hero calls.

River: 5 ($370.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $314.3, Sidepot 1: $56)


Results:
Final pot: $370.3
CO shows 7d 7c
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:32 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, I would probably raise the flop, but calling is fine too. But why are you not betting the turn? You are giving up precious value to AA-QQ and other hands with showdown value by not betting the turn.

Hand 2, I would raise preflop, but if table is full of bad players, I don't mind limp/calling. I would lead for pot on the flop ($10) and 3-bet. As played, make it $45, and bomb the turn. Also, you should just push after you get raised on the turn. Any 3-bet here commits villian.
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i try to get all the money in on the flop in both of them, but im still going broke
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:26 PM #4 (permalink)  

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Hand 1: I dont like the turn check, you let him outdraw you with a hand like AA/KK/QQ etc, but even 9x (which he probably dont have becuse of the UTG rasie).

Hand 2: I don't like the pre-flop call from UTG. I would either raise or fold the so I can take the command in the hand. At the flop I would re-raise and if he push again I would really concider to fold. The way the hand was played now I would push him all in when he re-rasie me so I dont have to cry and call when he push insted.
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 betting the turn is a must, build the pot to get all your chips in on the river. The river is fine, you can't fold for your last $100 there getting roughly 3-1.

Hand 2 is somewhat standard, except I three bet the flop with the million draws on board. Any heart could kill your action or worse, beat you. I'm not folding a set here either way so if he reraises the flop again I'm pushing.
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