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Alexos
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01-16-2008, 09:01 PM
Post subject: Set on nasty ass turn
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4-of-a-Kind
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2/5 pounds, villain has 3bet us a few times before already and we folded. He's a decent reg, but unsure of his cbet tendencies in 3bet pots. Std shove?
edit : Villain runs 28/11, AF: .5/2.5/3.5/5 Total AF of 1.
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
5 players
Converter
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with  
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $25, SB raises to $75, 2 folds, Hero calls.
Flop:    ($160, 2 players)
SB bets $60, Hero calls.
Turn:  ($280, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River:  ($280, 2 players)
SB bets $205, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $205 returned to SB.
Results:
Final pot: $280
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Ash256
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Couldn't he have like AQ here?
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griffey24
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I don't know about this.. you have to have all sorts of a sick read here to lay this down.. like he only ever bets $205 w hen he has the nuts.
I think he can have Ax (thinking they are chopping at worst), Kx, AQ, JT here.
Raise the flop and get it in!
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Alexos
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Nobody thinks the flop bet of 60 into 160 is extremely wierd?
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nutsinho
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tough hand probably a good fold
how deep were you?
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Pythonic
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I push and say "thankyou sir...may I have another"
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Never bet on a white man in the heavyweight division!
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Numbr2intheWorld
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std flop shove, you're not getting anymore value out of a hand that's not stacking off anyway.
as played the river is a fold and i don't think it's close.
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kmind
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Originally Posted by Pythonic
I push and say "thankyou sir...may I have another"
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why? what hands could he beat?
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Genitruc
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the hand didn't work out so hot for you...
I'm not sure I like the river fold as much as I like the turn check.
A call isn't bad at all since it looks like you have some mid ace that is a bluffcatcher.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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IowaSkinsFan
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raise to like 175 on the flop
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Genitruc
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if you guys are more than 1 level deep and he s a thinker I'd minraise the flop then check almost any turn
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Pythonic
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kmind
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Originally Posted by Pythonic
I push and say "thankyou sir...may I have another"
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why? what hands could he beat? |
I meant push flop, villian is calling regardless with AK so might as well be a 90% favorite to win with all the money in.
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mixchange
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whats wrong with raise flop, bet turn?
as played, how can we fold river given we showed no strength
i can see a fold if we played the hand more aggressively and faced a river shove...but not how we played the hand
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sauce123
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call the flop if ur never folding
raise the flop is u think hes strong
there r more combos of AK then AA and KK
there r combos of bluffs always
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Seabass
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Raise the flop.
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bair
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folding this river is fucking retarded. "villian has 3-bet us a few times and we've folded." we checked behind on the turn, any ace, JT, KJ is valuebetting the river. villain is most aggressive on the river. if we check behind the turn its to get value out of the river and we are certainly calling as long as no A or K drops. anything besides a call sucks.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by bair
folding this river is fucking retarded. "villian has 3-bet us a few times and we've folded." we checked behind on the turn, any ace, JT, KJ is valuebetting the river. villain is most aggressive on the river. if we check behind the turn its to get value out of the river and we are certainly calling as long as no A or K drops. anything besides a call sucks.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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wow... i don't even know why i said fold the river. I didn't catch that he had 3-bet a few times. He could basically be betting an A here to fold out a split.
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