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Old 09-23-2006, 04:49 AM     Post subject: Set on draw heavy board, 2 opps - I give a freebie #1 (permalink)  
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What do you think about my turn check?

Dattebayo is 38/19. Other guy is unknown.

- Hero sitting in seat 1 with $197.85 [Dealer]
- Dattebayo sitting in seat 2 with $177.07
- Tommy1234 sitting in seat 3 with $110.20
- gurlnextdoor sitting in seat 4 with $95.50
- waz7077 sitting in seat 5 with $35.62
- OhBobSaget sitting in seat 6 with $225.64

Dattebayo posted the small blind - $0.50
Tommy1234 posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to Hero: 7 of Clubs, 7 of Diamonds
gurlnextdoor folded
waz7077 called - $1.00
OhBobSaget folded
Hero raised - $5.00
Dattebayo called - $5.00
Tommy1234 folded
waz7077 called - $5.00

** Dealing the flop: 5 of Spades, 7 of Spades, 4 of Spades
Dattebayo checked
waz7077 checked
Hero bet - $12.00
Dattebayo called - $12.00
waz7077 called - $12.00

** Dealing the turn: Jack of Diamonds
Dattebayo checked
waz7077 checked
Hero checked

** Dealing the river: 6 of Diamonds
Dattebayo bet - $20.00
waz7077 went all-in - $18.62
Hero called - $20.00
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:10 AM #2 (permalink)  
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so......um.......why did you check turn????
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:23 AM #3 (permalink)  
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so......um.......why did you check turn????
Fancy play syndrome?

Here are some reasons:

I figure I'm way ahead or way behind after they both called my flop bet. If I bet, they will both have odds to call anyway unless I bomb the turn. Shorty isn't going anywhere and the guy between knows that.

If the river pairs, I'll get paid off by a flush anyway.

I'm able to call a smaller river bet with my set.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:22 AM #4 (permalink)  
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r8ed,

At least one of your opponents are loose, and there's a good chance that they are both drawing to a straight or a flush. So just bet, if they have a draw the loose guy will call anyway without odds. This is a not WA/WB situation.
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Old 09-23-2006, 12:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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If you check the turn, I think you have to fold on the river given that action.
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Old 09-23-2006, 10:16 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Eww...even in a HU pot I still think a turn check would be really bad.

If you're worried about flop flushes you're playing scared, just pay it off dude. Get the money in.
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Old 09-23-2006, 10:35 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I really don't like this check... There are times to check the turn and give a free card... this is not one of them. If both opps are typical loose players, they are both drawing. I take the standard line of bombing the flop, bombing the turn, and if the river is clean, going about 1/2 -3/4 pot there. I wouldve bet more on flop as well, many loose opps won't give you credit for hitting this flop, and will assume it's a c-bet, calling you with overcards.
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:19 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I'm betting the turn. Big hand big pot. The only card i'm worried about is a club here. Bet the turn for value and so that you don't give a free draw
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